CNC machined upper
Close up of the golf ball dimpled barrel
A shot of the rear of the upper receiver
more images to follow later here: http://www.gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1546
Full Version: WE GBB PDW
I know there's been lots of talk about the KAC PDW coming out for airsoft. We've had the VFC version followed by Dboy's PDW and Echo 1's rebranded "RDW". But those are AEGs... But since we at GGI is a gas guns forum :-) Here's what WETTI has to offer.
CNC machined upper
Close up of the golf ball dimpled barrel
A shot of the rear of the upper receiver
more images to follow later here: http://www.gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1546
CNC machined upper
Close up of the golf ball dimpled barrel
A shot of the rear of the upper receiver
more images to follow later here: http://www.gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1546
I wonder what the price point will be? $200 in HK/china shops before shipping? Slightly lower than the scar.
QUOTE (Whan @ Aug 15 2009, 07:00 PM) 
I wonder what the price point will be? $200 in HK/china shops before shipping? Slightly lower than the scar.
Is the PDW partial polymer?
I don't think they will have to lower the price lower than the Scar. Because of the natural popularity of the PDW and it is the first GBB version too. So there should be little competition with the AGM/JG/WA/G&P GBBs.
But if they want to have a competition with the DBoys PDW. The price should be interesting.
Damn i don't think i have money for another WE GBB.
But if they want to have a competition with the DBoys PDW. The price should be interesting.
Damn i don't think i have money for another WE GBB.
thanks for the update IBICO
Wow.
I can hardly wait for this. I liked the VFC as soon as I saw it, but it was a little too pricey for me. Then the Dboys/KAC versions, which is more like my budget, so I was thinking of getting one the other night. Good job I didnt. I wonder though, the propriatory magazines are smaller than those of the normal armalite series, so will they hold many shots? Also I wondered whether the M4/scar magazines will fit, as I am sure that I read that the aeg M4 magazines will fit in the KAC pdw, which would be great for those who own one of the above already as they will then straight away have extra mags at thier disposal. I really like the way that WE are coming out with some really nice guns, and it is also really good to see them listening to thier end customers and responding to thier concerns, a really nice bit of customer liason. I can see them costing me a small fortune! Now hurry up wetti people, stop reading this and hurry up and release these and those Browning Hi Powers that you are doing, go!
I can hardly wait for this. I liked the VFC as soon as I saw it, but it was a little too pricey for me. Then the Dboys/KAC versions, which is more like my budget, so I was thinking of getting one the other night. Good job I didnt. I wonder though, the propriatory magazines are smaller than those of the normal armalite series, so will they hold many shots? Also I wondered whether the M4/scar magazines will fit, as I am sure that I read that the aeg M4 magazines will fit in the KAC pdw, which would be great for those who own one of the above already as they will then straight away have extra mags at thier disposal. I really like the way that WE are coming out with some really nice guns, and it is also really good to see them listening to thier end customers and responding to thier concerns, a really nice bit of customer liason. I can see them costing me a small fortune! Now hurry up wetti people, stop reading this and hurry up and release these and those Browning Hi Powers that you are doing, go!
This is pretty cool. This could be my entry into the gbbr world, assuming it does't have the faults of the WE SCAR.
me wants a G36 :-/
OOOOH i like, i like...im assuming how quickly WE pushed out its Scar then this should be out in a relativly short time!
Oh wow!
Now I wanna wait for this and forget about the SCAR!
Now I wanna wait for this and forget about the SCAR!
Nice! But i need MP5-N... 8-\
just wondering, what is this hype with the pdw? it is a very practical choice since it combines the features modern day gun has like the stock, sights rails and ambi stuff, but i just dont like the looks of it, did a game or something make this gun famous?
its very sleek, light , and you can work this gun faster than an M4 in "combat".............and you are not running around with a mp5K just to have a small gun.
And no....I dont mean real combat...just nerdcombat for chubby nerds as myself;)
And no....I dont mean real combat...just nerdcombat for chubby nerds as myself;)
QUOTE (bart_dude @ Aug 16 2009, 01:37 PM)
just wondering, what is this hype with the pdw? it is a very practical choice since it combines the features modern day gun has like the stock, sights rails and ambi stuff, but i just dont like the looks of it, did a game or something make this gun famous?
It is indeed quite unusual. Usually, airsoft models only gain popularity after they've been seen in use with some high speed spec-ops unit. However, afaik the most publicity this gun has received is when it was featured in an episode of "Future Weapons".
Not bad. CNC Machined you've got to like that. The quality of production is definitely on the rise in airsoft.
Wow its already updated with pics of a painted receiver and the bolt carrier. Looks like this is progressing even faster than the WE SCAR was.
The PDW is pretty much an improved M4 with all the goodies most people want in a package that's really light. It's also good looking too.
Ver 2 compatibility + M4 mag compatibility + folding stock + good looks & Unique + KAC = Highly liked in airsoft.
Ver 2 compatibility + M4 mag compatibility + folding stock + good looks & Unique + KAC = Highly liked in airsoft.
I like it, even it will most likely still not be ready out of the box.
kinda unrealistic if it takes regular 5,56 magazines ..
QUOTE (yehaw @ Aug 16 2009, 11:06 AM)
kinda unrealistic if it takes regular 5,56 magazines ..
well to forgo a little bit of realism just to make sure you don't segment the market is the logical business decision. Last thing WETTI wants is to force their customers to having to buy different types of magazines considering that would make many a dissatisfied customer.
Right. Why not let the people who want practicallity to use m4 mags, but also let those that want realism to use only PDW mags?
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Right. Why not let the people who want practicallity to use m4 mags, but also let those that want realism to use only PDW mags?
those who want realism don't like a PDW that is out of spec .. the receiver of the RS version is shorter than a regular M4 lower, so are the magazines.
you can't use AR15 mags in a PDW and you can't use PDW mags in your M4.
It could be made with the lower receiver swappable. One lower for PDW spec mags and one for AR15 magazines for the people that already have AR15 mags.
QUOTE (yehaw @ Aug 16 2009, 09:57 PM)
those who want realism don't like a PDW that is out of spec .. the receiver of the RS version is shorter than a regular M4 lower, so are the magazines.
you can't use AR15 mags in a PDW and you can't use PDW mags in your M4.
you can't use AR15 mags in a PDW and you can't use PDW mags in your M4.
Fair point, though no one knows the exact dimensions of a real PDW. Perhaps a AR15 mag will "fit" in a PDW, at least length wise.
For me, it's a good compromise, but I can see your dilemma.
Thats what I love about this forum. 1 freakin day gone and I get pages of info on a single gun.
Anywhoo. This seems cool, but what are the differences between teh PDW and the M4? Just upper and few minor parts right?
Anywhoo. This seems cool, but what are the differences between teh PDW and the M4? Just upper and few minor parts right?
hhhhm. I wonder if they'll put real trades and how hard it'll be to import them to the states. 
QUOTE (rusTORK @ Aug 16 2009, 07:06 AM)
Nice! But i need MP5-N... 8-\
Agreed comrade. The PDW looks nice, but what I really want is a MP5-A5 with a navy (3rd burst option) lower. So I think I'll pass on the PDW and wait to see if an MP5 comes along in the next year or so
QUOTE (db_pepsi @ Aug 17 2009, 01:31 AM)
hhhhm. I wonder if they'll put real trades and how hard it'll be to import them to the states.
Im wondering this as well. I somehow dont see us having this replica readily available stateside.
I mean hell, just getting WE m4's over here is hard enough as is.
Is it harder to import GBB's with trades as opposed to AEGs with trades?
QUOTE (Jin15 @ Aug 17 2009, 01:27 AM)
Agreed comrade. The PDW looks nice, but what I really want is a MP5-A5 with a navy (3rd burst option) lower. So I think I'll pass on the PDW and wait to see if an MP5 comes along in the next year or so
that'd be nice but it seems WE is gonna stick to weapons that can use STANAG magazines. Although technically the PDW doesnt in real life.
QUOTE (bart_dude @ Aug 16 2009, 10:37 PM)
just wondering, what is this hype with the pdw? it is a very practical choice since it combines the features modern day gun has like the stock, sights rails and ambi stuff, but i just dont like the looks of it, did a game or something make this gun famous?
A show on Discovery channel, Future Weapons hosted by a bald dude who likes to ham it up like William Shatner.
Real spec, it outperforms ballistics-wise any 5.56 gun given the same barrel length. The latter really suffers power loss when the barrel is chopped down to 7~10" so they made an entirely new gun and bullet to have the power of a full length 5.56 carbine in something so short.
QUOTE (CrazyJ @ Aug 18 2009, 01:28 AM)
WE is gonna stick to weapons that can use STANAG magazines
They've announced making an AK and an MP5SD, they're just not telling when.
QUOTE (renegadecow @ Aug 17 2009, 12:39 PM)
They've announced making an AK and an MP5SD, they're just not telling when.
Where? all I've seen is the M4, SCAR L/H, M14, and this KAC PDW.
QUOTE (DamnLion @ Aug 17 2009, 08:58 PM)
Where? all I've seen is the M4, SCAR L/H, M14, and this KAC PDW.
Think WETTI briefly mentioned the MP5SD on GGI some time ago, who knows if they're actually still planning to develop it...
QUOTE (Buckshot, WE representative and admin of the WE Users forum at http://www.aggma.com/ )
Now.. lets bring people up to speed in this matter.
FACT... The SA80 project is put on shelf for now..and for a while. The interest is simply not enough at the moment to cover the cost for the manufacturing.
FACT... There is a number of models still in the pipeline. SCAR H beeing one of them. This is not a big surprice since it is a rather small change from the SCAR L. (lower receiver and a slightly longer upper)
FACT... The G36 GBB that circulated on forums was NOT a WE Product. In fact it was a clone made by another Airsoft manufacturer from Taiwan. It will NOT be released since they simply stole the internal system from WE and they WILL get in trouble if they even try to release it.
FACT... There will NOT be an Masada/ACR made by WE. There has been discussions about it but WE will not make this rifle. Simply because the interest is to low. Sure there is the WOW factor but that's it. Just look at the AEG version... How many do you see around in the playing fields.
FACT... WE WILL make models of AK47/74 etc. What model/models will be made is yet to be decided
FACT... The next release.... I am not able to talk about this.. Since I have a non disclosure agreement... BUT.. I am sure it will blow peoples minds..
It is a VERY popular model and it has been partly shown in pictures before on different forums.
It will be revealed and announced by the end of the month.
So far so good
FACT... The SA80 project is put on shelf for now..and for a while. The interest is simply not enough at the moment to cover the cost for the manufacturing.
FACT... There is a number of models still in the pipeline. SCAR H beeing one of them. This is not a big surprice since it is a rather small change from the SCAR L. (lower receiver and a slightly longer upper)
FACT... The G36 GBB that circulated on forums was NOT a WE Product. In fact it was a clone made by another Airsoft manufacturer from Taiwan. It will NOT be released since they simply stole the internal system from WE and they WILL get in trouble if they even try to release it.
FACT... There will NOT be an Masada/ACR made by WE. There has been discussions about it but WE will not make this rifle. Simply because the interest is to low. Sure there is the WOW factor but that's it. Just look at the AEG version... How many do you see around in the playing fields.
FACT... WE WILL make models of AK47/74 etc. What model/models will be made is yet to be decided
FACT... The next release.... I am not able to talk about this.. Since I have a non disclosure agreement... BUT.. I am sure it will blow peoples minds..
It is a VERY popular model and it has been partly shown in pictures before on different forums.
It will be revealed and announced by the end of the month.
So far so good
Hopefully that will clear up some confusion about what upcoming models WE is and isn't planning on making for the time being
So they're not making a Masada/ACR or SA80 due to low interest, BUT a PDW is apparently a hot item?
they are also making an M14 too..
email WE to see for yourselves
email WE to see for yourselves
P90 
Okay, so after see that, I'm guessing the reason they're releasing the PDW first is because they'll make it so it can take their 5.56 mags and is not a bull-pup, meaning just take their existing system and do a few tweaks here and there to fit it in a PDW body. I can't understand where the "low interest" came from on the SA80 and the Masada as I've seen quiet a hand full of people who loves the SA80 and Masada. Another point to manufacturing the SA80 is simply that its a bull-pup. Sure they may have made prototypes and tested them, but they could've had too many problems and, like they've said, costed too much to fix and release. As for the Masada, they haven't seen too many of the AEGs out there because its too rare of an AEG to use and abuse. If something breaks, you're pretty much SOL but there are plenty who'd like one. Another factor is that plastic + GBB = major fail. Just look at a stock WA m4 and the WE SCAR, both have some sort of external flaw(s) to them. This is the same with a G36.
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see these being produced and I'd definately get pretty much one of each. But as I see it, both the factory and the people are overlooking pros and cons.
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see these being produced and I'd definately get pretty much one of each. But as I see it, both the factory and the people are overlooking pros and cons.
Well, I read an e-mail about the M14. i don't know why they'd even go near an SA80. Not THAT high in demand. Also, an Mp5 would be awesome. They almost def wont have CO2 though. And, why isn't any other company stepping up for this? Even an ACM company? They could take the Escort system and do something with it.
Also, wouldn't it make sense that WE couls possibly sell G36 body kits for the SCAR internals? They're exactly alike. So why not?
Also, wouldn't it make sense that WE couls possibly sell G36 body kits for the SCAR internals? They're exactly alike. So why not?
The RS MASDA is made out of polymer...so i dont see your point. As long as a proper strength polymer is used plastic will be no issue in a GBB.
However, once again the internal framework of the RS masada is metal, using a similar system will work just fine.
However, once again the internal framework of the RS masada is metal, using a similar system will work just fine.
Yes and so is a good amount of the SCAR, but there's been reports of the stock hinge breaking on the WE SCAR.
QUOTE (db_pepsi @ Aug 17 2009, 09:03 PM)
Yes and so is a good amount of the SCAR, but there's been reports of the stock hinge breaking on the WE SCAR.
I only know of one incident where the hinge plate hasn't cracked. Only 1. Every other I know of is broken.
FACT... The SA80 project is put on shelf for now..and for a while.
That just blows. They already have it, had it for some time now as those pictures of the working prototype are months old. Was decided on selling my M4 to get an SA80 too
That just blows. They already have it, had it for some time now as those pictures of the working prototype are months old. Was decided on selling my M4 to get an SA80 too
QUOTE (BrooklynBorn @ Aug 18 2009, 01:06 AM)
I only know of one incident where the hinge plate hasn't cracked. Only 1. Every other I know of is broken.
Ive been using my WE Scar and so my mate Jemma has one too, and we havent had any issues with the hinge plate cracking. The only issue I have had was the little screw and bolt holding the adjustable part of the stock in, came undone. Oh and because of the cr@p packaging the mag that came with it is busted and I cant seem to get a replacement which I thinks a bit *suitcase*. Other than that its been great.
I cant wait for this to come out. I wanted a small compact rifle but now and this ticks all the boxes. Im going to have to find somewhere to put it. Single point sling and a weapons catch I think.
Just a thought...
WE probably won't touch the Masada b/c Magpul would go after any unlicensed replica in a heart beat, not because there is little demand....
WE probably won't touch the Masada b/c Magpul would go after any unlicensed replica in a heart beat, not because there is little demand....
Man, what I'd do for a WE M14... preferably not a EBR model.
whats with the red stain in the chamber? could it be blood? 0_0
QUOTE (4boost @ Aug 18 2009, 12:35 PM)
Just a thought...
WE probably won't touch the Masada b/c Magpul would go after any unlicensed replica in a heart beat, not because there is little demand....
WE probably won't touch the Masada b/c Magpul would go after any unlicensed replica in a heart beat, not because there is little demand....
Magpul have been talking to them if you read that little statement. But i don't know why they came out with that excuse, i think they would sell loads though.
Good to hear this. +1 for WE.
QUOTE (MadMax1818 @ Aug 18 2009, 10:22 AM)
Magpul have been talking to them if you read that little statement. But i don't know why they came out with that excuse, i think they would sell loads though.
QUOTE
FACT... There will NOT be an Masada/ACR made by WE. There has been discussions about it but WE will not make this rifle. Simply because the interest is to low. Sure there is the WOW factor but that's it. Just look at the AEG version... How many do you see around in the playing fields.
I assumed he wasn't talking about Magpul "being in discussions about it" as they like to soley deal with thier PTS counterpart on all products. My mistake if I misunderstood. Regardless, and you are right, I think there is a ton of interest in a Masada/ACR GBB. The only reason it hasn't taken off in AEG form is the fact that it, A.)was such a limited run by the clone company that manufactured it, and B.)Magpul's reluctance to sell the licensing to other manufactures to make the replica.
In any case, back on topic as this thread is for the PDW. When this hits shelves, I'll pick one up. Hopefully it will be reasonably priced like the SCAR but I have a feeling it's going to be more along the lines of the M4 due to the materials needed.
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