I read a snippet about this somewhere a couple of months ago and just spotted a post over on Zeroin, bit far for me to travel but might be of interest to some people NAS 2009

Any idea who is behind this? The website seems a bit half arsed with little information, mostly just invitations to come along if you are....xyz

If anyone has some info on who is attending, event programme, facilities, retailers, maufacturers who have commited to be there it would be great to hear. Bookings seem to have closed at the end of July, I would have thought they would have their act together and be actively promoting this ?????

The idea is a good one but I can't see anything there that would get me from London to Lincs right now

I was doubtfull about this and I live in lincs, but this is ripped from slick's post on z1 forum.

Ok UPDATE!!!!!

spoke to organiser today. This event is still happening.
Looking busier on the saturday than the sunday so i guess there is chance for some bargains on sunday. He seems genuinely dissappointed by Ai magazines lack of coverage so far... i cant go in to why on this forum...

There are over 50 retailers booked in on site so really could be a great weekend.

The team tournament still has spaces for both days but especially the sunday...

Also to clarify.... AEG's and RIF's can be sold on site by trade sellers only. Car booters are welcome to sell tactical equipment and accessories only. got this direct from horses mouth.

I also understand that we are among a few retailers offering show special prices on both days on various products.

There is a possibility that Ai are putting a full ' Show special' up this month with details of who is showing but when you look at the lack of advertising they have given their own Ai500 this year i am not holding my breath.

Also got some more realisitic no. of tickets sold...lower than previously stated at apx 2k and 1k respectively... but obviously he is hoping that there will be a late flurry if Ai do cover it enough...

I suppose we are just going to have to see. However it would be good to get our own event every year. At £5.00 advance tickets it is a cheap cheerful day out that could be a wet fart but equally could be a stonker. We the airsoft community have a chance to decide its fate.

Show your support. .........please!

That sounds a bit more promising - As this event a combines paintball and lasertag I think I will wait until the promotors get the event programme and retailer lists out there. I would hate to drive 100 miles to find its the paintball crew who are most represented and the airsoft theme is diluted.

I googled the telephone number on the site and came up with a website design company as the link for enquiries.....any light on who the organisers are Hero???

hes called james, but in fairness I think its gonna be fairly airsoft based .To contact him on here theres james 1 ,Airsoft-Show event team, or use the email on the nas main site .He doesn't answer his phone in my experience.

Dr. Evil!

almost

only down the road from me ill be going so will the team, even if its just a look round its about time the uk had an expo show..

His Fasha?

Mr. Bigglesworth

I might come along to this event. Sounds quite interesting. Considering it's a first of it's kind - airsoft event wise, 1000-2000 ticket sales sounds pretty darn good.

indeed, I'll certainly be there now I got some comfirmation its happening

website looks like it was developed by stevie wonder! Don't go to the expense of buying a domain name, getting into DNS, buying hosting space and then making a bad website

Probably because their was no where they could cut and paste the article from.

"Welcome to the UKs first dedicated Airsoft show"

Inc: Paintball and Laser Tag

Not exactly a dedicated Airsoft Show then is it.... Usual Ai B.S.

Are there any other shows in the UK like this that cater for the airsofter?

ROFL QFT

Too true.

I wish A.I. would just *fruitcage* off and give up the ghost - they've ruined any credibility they had with airsofters. Still, plenty of n00bs out there with cash in their pockets to hand to Mr. Monaf and the crew.

Ben.

Right, now this is interesting. I thought that this was being run by Ai and The Monaf so was going to boycott it on those grounds. If it can be confirmed that this is not the case, Ill try and drum up some interest among my local site members.

no its not an ai organised event .Just him trying to get some advertising ,and ai trying to get advertising out of it afaik

I really do hope they will charge Monaf a huge stack of cash to advertise at this event!!



Tom.

can you just turn up on the day?

yep, costs £7.50 on the door

Has anyone got any real informaiton on this yet...which airsoft companies and retailers are attending, itinary of events, whats on guide...anything ???

just sent him a message ,lets see what he comes up with.

Emailed him, no reply yet but lets see....

I sent him a link to this thread ,hes not doing himself any favours . Come on James

i hear firesupports not going a shame as they are only down the road. But i think someone in this thread said zeroone was going ? Would be nice for some manufactures to be there!

I got wind of a rumour over the weekend that not only has no one heard anything from the organiser for a couple of weeks! but that they are using the A.I banners on their website with out permission! A.I dont appear to be giving any support to this event. And that the estimated attendance numbers are way below the numbers claimed ...

Well James has decided not to reply to my email or give out any info on the event. The whole thing looks like a great idea on paper but thats about all it is.

I for one will not be bothering with this.

dont think its far for me so ill give it a go on the off chance about all you can do really ! if its advertised im sure its going ahead. might phone in advance

heard a rumour that this is cancelled?

anyone confirm, I tried emailing the organiser and no responce?

Sadly its too far for me with my work schedule at that time

That's weird. I am sure i saw a post in this thread this morning saying that he knew the bloke and it has been cancelled and the slot filled with another event.

http://www.lincolnshireshowground.co.uk/what_s_on/

Facts, they're great!

I to have tried to get in contact with the organisers of the event and have not had any replies. Its a shame as this could have been a good event, would be interested to know how long the show has been cancelled for and for what reasons.
Also for those who paid for advance tickets are they going to see a refund?

I would question wether it was ever mean't to happen in the first place tbh

thought did cross my mind too.

I have good reason to belive this show was never mean't to happen . He lied about AI magazins involvement ,who are now taking legal action for using their banners. He lied about trader atendance, claiming there were 52 traders .There were infact 2 uk ,and 2-3 international traders .One of which have already sent him their stock for the show. Ticket sales he told ai 5000 and us 1000 approx .So who knows the actual number .I belive these claims were made to encourage ticket sales ,as these claims were made very late on in the day. When he full well knew the show was not going to happen. Not to mention another event called Pegasus Strike which was set up by him ,which never happened ,and money went missing .So if you payed via paypal ,get you claims in .The more do it ,the more likely to retreive your money.

Well i have been intouch with paypal and explained the situation and they do not want to know anything more about this as payment was made over 45 days ago. They will not look into this unless they have an unspecified number of complaints.
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your more likely to get blood out of a stone unfortunatly

Bloody hell, are people saying that this may have been a scam? Surely the chap could`ve put on a reasonable show , or was he thinking too big ? I`ve been to enough model, slotcar and railway shows in leisure centres, why on earth couldn`t he do something on that scale instead of bullshitting.

Like I said at the point when he released his false information .He would have known he would not have had enough stalls, or cash to put on the show. Wether or not the original intention was to scam people, I'm not sure .But the fact he has been lieing from the start about the ai involvement is fairly damming imo. Along with his previous failings.

Unfortunately its a sign of the times, difficult to know for sure this guys intentions at the start, but his false claims and lack of credible info has not helped his cause one little bit.
It would help if he had the balls to at least post a reply and try to explain his actions.

I e-mailed him with a link to this thread fairly early on. He wasn't willing to participate in the this thread when there was still a possibility of it still happening .Which I think is also fairly shady .I would say its highly unlikely now.

How f***ing stupid does AI think we are, lying b******s, utter total lying b******s,

Volume 5 issue 2 Page 14 lower left corner............

"17th/18th Oct 09
In association with AIRSOFT INTERNATIONAL,
Welcome to the UK's first dedicated airsoft show.

bla bla bla..........

The event will be held at Lincolnshire showground..............."

Disgraceful, I am not an advocate of AI, but I did think it had its uses, apparently lying to us all.

Edit : to credit lj_tactical for the above info.

It could be possible that AI were involved to some extent at the beginning of this venture, then had serious doubts and removed their backing. If this was the case then it would`ve been nice for them to post their doubts in the mag...although I`m not sure on the legal status if that had happened, could possibly come under defamation of character or similar.
Its a shame this event wasn`t better planned and advertised. Most hobbies in the UK have an 'out of club' event whether its militaria collecting, model railways, slotcars, motorcycles etc. where people can gather socially and have a natter and/or buy some goods.
Events like this also have a habit of generating interest and provide a 'showcase' for anyone who has a potential interest in taking up the hobby.
I`m almost tempted to look into organising a small airsoft show myself, but I`d make it a one day indoor affair with space for retailers, private sellers, teams and organisations, and see how it progressed from there.

Having just caught up on this, this is what happened from the Ai POV.

Bloke comes to the mag and says he's putting on a show, with X number of tickets that he reckons will be sold, Y number of exhibitors, not to mention Z type events going on (It feels like a bloody lifetime ago now) and he asks if the mag would publish it. Which it did. At *fruitcage* all cost to the organiser.

Then it all went quiet. Bit of a dodgy situation there. Legally, you're between a rock and a hard place. If you say anything negative about it, then you're open to being taken to court for defamation (and adding "allegedly" to things doesnt make *fruitcage* all difference in the High Court these days) so the best thing to do is nothing.

Now, whilst we're on about defamation, how about an apology Aitch. Publicly. As I am most certainly not a b*****d by any definition, and the mag hasn't lied - we printed what we were fooled into printing, and there was absolutely zero intention to mislead anyone.

Mmmm... airsoft professionalism at it's finest.

You can only take so much abuse before you crack teetee. I'll stand most forms of abuse, but being called a "lying b*****d" isn't one of them.

Fair comment?