Hokum
Oct 5 2009, 08:03 AM
Hey, everybody!
Tokyo Marui are about to release something new? Sorry, I couldn't translate the text in the end of the flash ad.
Tokyo Marui new products?I've spotted G36 (K)?
MP5 C-mag;
G3 with retractable stock?
Desert Eagle with blowback and glove

(but wait, they already have one?)
CKinnerley
Oct 5 2009, 10:17 AM
Kind of hard to tell from those pictures really, be interesting to see what the big reveal is, although knowing TM at least a couple of these will probably be some kind of boys/ebb pistol type releases that aren't of any real interest.
FireKnife
Oct 5 2009, 10:57 AM
Ok, what i saw was G36, possibly K or E, a MP5 Drum and A Sliding stock on a G3 like gun, as for the one at the end i am thinking an EBB as most of the EBB pics show the same gloved hand with it in mid blowback, looking at it again i am thinking USP of some design, Match or Sport.
'FireKnife'
hwagan
Oct 5 2009, 11:09 AM
Looks like a GBB USP.45 of some kind to me - The slide travel is much further than an EBB in the photo, and it makes sense for TM to make one - They already do springers/AEP's in USP flavour, so i'd guess they're doing a GBB. As for the rest, looks like a few accessories, although the G3 looks like it could be metal bodied from the image? This is all entirely speculation obviously..
NeoVeNoM
Oct 5 2009, 11:35 AM
I really hope thats a USP GBB. That way I can check wich one is better, KSC's or TM's.
I must say SYstem 7 in the KSC USP is pretty impressive my P10 easily makes 280 FPS at barely 15°c on greengas.
But then again, My Hicapa's are quite the monsters as well.
FireKnife
Oct 5 2009, 12:21 PM
Actually something about it looks like the P2000 to me, but those sights don't look standard USP to me.
I would prefer A TM over a KSC anyway, i have had two KSC's foul up on me and no TM's so it is speaking from experience.
Though the G3 thing interests me.
'FireKnife'
Dodger_013
Oct 5 2009, 01:17 PM
That USP looks closer to a P2000 as stated, but looking at the grip style it might even be a P30 or HK45.
The G36 looks to be the K due to the rail mount points, if it were the full size it would be more forward on the newer style grips that can take the screw on rails.
Rob15
Oct 5 2009, 01:28 PM
G3 possibly looks like a full metal G3A4? (Yey! If it is).
The pistol does look like an EBB, the picture is in classic EBB style but it would be great if they did a GBB USP, I'd not have to bother trying to decide if I should sell my KSC USPs or not.
evansy
Oct 5 2009, 01:42 PM
Some nice, some ooh, some why?
I like the G36K, hopefully TM will put a decent scope in their carry handle.
The G3 looks like it could be good as long as TM keep up their trend of using metal receivers. Its got an SEF grip so it's probably an A4 or even better a KA4. Hopefully they've not decided to try and give it any kind of recoil.
MP5 drum mag? Why oh why would they make that? Who is going to buy that and not get mocked?
As for the pistol it definitely looks HKish but it isnt a USP or HK45 as there's no safety at the back of the frame so maybe its a P2000 or P30
One thing I would like to ask TM is WHERE IS MY DAMN TMP AEP?
Abelius
Oct 5 2009, 01:52 PM
TBH, the only way Marui can make the G36K succeed is by either including the first very usable double optic carry handle with a crisp red dot, or by including a blowback or such.
Dodger_013
Oct 5 2009, 02:09 PM
QUOTE (evansy @ Oct 5 2009, 06:42 AM)

Some nice, some ooh, some why?
I like the G36K, hopefully TM will put a decent scope in their carry handle.
The G3 looks like it could be good as long as TM keep up their trend of using metal receivers. Its got an SEF grip so it's probably an A4 or even better a KA4. Hopefully they've not decided to try and give it any kind of recoil.
MP5 drum mag? Why oh why would they make that? Who is going to buy that and not get mocked?
As for the pistol it definitely looks HKish but it isnt a USP or HK45 as there's no safety at the back of the frame so maybe its a P2000 or P30
One thing I would like to ask TM is WHERE IS MY DAMN TMP AEP?
The lack of safety bugged me too but then again HK usually offers many types of safety set ups it would be difficult to deny a possible HK45. There looks to be no break in the grip pattern to suggest the adjustable side panels like the P30. P2000 has a different style grip to it as well more like lines not rough texture. So my bet is still the HK45 full size.
zard
Oct 5 2009, 02:11 PM
QUOTE (evansy @ Oct 5 2009, 01:42 PM)

The G3 looks like it could be good as long as TM keep up their trend of using metal receivers. Its got an SEF grip so it's probably an A4 or even better a KA4. Hopefully they've not decided to try and give it any kind of recoil.
Not saying you're wrong on the SEF thing, but how can you tell?
And yeah, here's hoping that it is a KA4!
Rob15
Oct 5 2009, 02:25 PM
QUOTE (zard @ Oct 5 2009, 03:11 PM)

Not saying you're wrong on the SEF thing, but how can you tell?
It shows the right hand side of the lower receiver which is a 2 part construction with the pistol grip being a separate part, there is no selector on the right hand side so the only thing it can be is a SEF selector lever on the left hand side just like every other TM G3.
The Big Bad
Oct 5 2009, 04:42 PM
My money is the pistol being a HK P30
Dodger_013
Oct 5 2009, 05:11 PM
I counted 7 ridges on the back of the slide, so likely a P30 or P30L. HK45 has 8. Anyone verify a count?
apmaman
Oct 5 2009, 08:07 PM
Wishful thinking but GBB MK23 PLEEEAAASEEE
Inspector
Oct 5 2009, 08:45 PM
OH COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is the Beretta PX4 that they promised us?!?!?!
Agent47
Oct 5 2009, 10:35 PM
not seeing a G36 or any new guns on there...you sure you saw them...?
IronWolf
Oct 5 2009, 10:50 PM
QUOTE (Agent47 @ Oct 5 2009, 10:35 PM)

not seeing a G36 or any new guns on there...you sure you saw them...?
Yes

fadedcorona
Oct 5 2009, 11:48 PM
Isn't it a G36k by the rail attachments? Does the G36E have those holes for attaching rails right there? I don't think so. I second that motion, Where's my TMP
Skarclaw
Oct 6 2009, 12:15 AM
The newer g36s have them, yeah, but its a K cause if it was a full size foregrip the rail mount points would be further forward.
GnGArmament
Oct 6 2009, 12:23 AM
Sorry guys, but I think the pistol is a EBB USP. They had one in their coming soon section of their magazines.
Fighting Maus
Oct 6 2009, 12:39 AM
I 3rd that sentiment. Where is my TMP AEP? It was announced over 3 years ago.
Why would TM do a "K" now? JG does every G36 flavor imaginable. While I think the quality of their K will be great, TM is taking a step backwards in my opinion. Unless they include some spectacular optics or some other new technology, they aren't bringing anything new to the table.
GnGArmament
Oct 6 2009, 12:52 AM
QUOTE (Fighting Maus @ Oct 5 2009, 08:39 PM)

I 3rd that sentiment. Where is my TMP AEP? It was announced over 3 years ago.
Why would TM do a "K" now? JG does every G36 flavor imaginable. While I think the quality of their K will be great, TM is taking a step backwards in my opinion. Unless they include some spectacular optics or some other new technology, they aren't bringing anything new to the table.
A TM SCAR! *Hint Hint*
Dustie
Oct 6 2009, 01:19 AM
It could be a GBB P30 (but would probably end up an EBB)...
Click to view attachment... Still waiting for the Px4!!
Mig1
Oct 6 2009, 01:28 AM
It is almost definately a "K". I say that because you can barely make out the hint of a third vent hole in the side of the handguard. Combine that with the location of the accessory attachment points and it can pretty much only be a "K" or "KE" or "KV".. You get the idea.
I wonder if this will have blow back and use new midcap mags that have a bolt hold open feature. If it could take a decent upgrade spring this may be the treat. Anybody know if you can upgrade the TM blowback AKs? It wouldn't be unlikely to use a similar system since the originals were V3 based.
Azulsky
Oct 6 2009, 02:21 AM
Even if it was a metal TM G3, it would have to be something marvelous like v3 or a stamped receiver
Jagdraben
Oct 6 2009, 02:29 AM
G36K.
Not a C-mag but a simple drum.
...Didn't catch it....
Definitely a P2000 or P30.
elrey
Oct 6 2009, 02:30 AM
If this pistol turns out to be an EBB, my heart will be broken.
Inspector
Oct 6 2009, 03:04 AM
Well I went to Shot Show 2009 and at the Umarex booth they were showing their new "HK" trademarked products (a bunch of rebranded stuff) and one of them was a EBB HK P30. It was utter junk. But guessing from the hash of TM thrown together products of late, my guess is most likely this will be an EBB P30.
kilo_64
Oct 6 2009, 03:35 AM
QUOTE (Dodger_013 @ Oct 5 2009, 01:11 PM)

I counted 7 ridges on the back of the slide, so likely a P30 or P30L. HK45 has 8. Anyone verify a count?
i counted 8
RacingManiac
Oct 6 2009, 03:37 AM
not USP since its missing a thumb safety.....heres to hoping new GBB, and finally a HK pistol beyone USP....
thartwig
Oct 6 2009, 04:28 AM
No way its a GBB P30. They would have announced it when they did the FiveseveN, and the PX4.
I wonder why they went back to making a new g3... could just be showing off a accessory
SpecialistR
Oct 6 2009, 04:45 AM
I for one hope its NOT a KA4.
So I can continue to be one of a few (To my not so extensive knowledge.

) with a truly correct replica.
Also hoping that's a GBB P30. Mirroring other's sentiments,its about time for a new HK pistol that's not a USP.
Dodger_013
Oct 6 2009, 04:46 AM
QUOTE (kilo_64 @ Oct 5 2009, 07:35 PM)

i counted 8
I hope so, I like the P30 don't get me wrong but I would love a HK45 instead.
MCXL
Oct 6 2009, 05:07 AM
P30(00) is more popular everywhere but the US so i think thats more likely.
EDIT: I am looking at my real P30 right now and they don't match, the P30 has a line right above the stippling on the side from the replaceable panels (even if they arent swappable on a TM they would still have the line to make it look accurate) Also there is a hole on the side above the thumb for a thumb safety, (some variants have a USP style safety, the common US one the V3 does not). Finally this model in there picture doesn't have a hammer in either state of recoil leading me to EBB land, also there is no rear de-cocker.
Also the P30 has 8 GROOVES, 7 RAISED serration areas.
A p30 this is not, or at least not an accurate replica.
Jagdraben
Oct 6 2009, 05:13 AM
A reminder, MCXL: The P30 is what was once known as the P3000. And is known everywhere in production as the P30.
Dodger_013
Oct 6 2009, 05:52 AM
I had meant raised serrations when I mentioned ridges. HK45 has 8 raised ones, P30 7.
ultimentra
Oct 6 2009, 06:10 AM
G3KA4 is lookin nice!
Moofner
Oct 6 2009, 09:11 AM
I'm all for that drum mag.... would be nice to just hook that up to the fiance's MP5 and say go get some!!
galactica
Oct 6 2009, 09:28 AM
"go get some...midcaps"
greg
Oct 6 2009, 10:19 AM
QUOTE (Moofner @ Oct 6 2009, 09:11 AM)

fiance's MP5
Greg.
MCXL
Oct 6 2009, 10:25 AM
QUOTE (Jagdraben @ Oct 6 2009, 12:13 AM)

A reminder, MCXL: The P30 is what was once known as the P3000. And is known everywhere in production as the P30.

That's why it was parenthesized.
Grey_Fox
Oct 6 2009, 01:11 PM
If TM will make an HK45 it would be a killer.
^ Definitely.
You really think that G3 will be metal? I'd definitely welcome an all metal G3 from TM (no need to source hard to find CA body kits), but I dunno... I'm thinking it might just be a reissue of their old G3A4. As for the G36K, I guess it'll be interesting to see how they'll handle the optic/s on the carry handle. Wonder if it'll be a Zess/Hendsolt, or a flat top? Maybe they'll introduce a new type of sight (G36A2 style) altogether?
LemonHead
Oct 6 2009, 01:22 PM
Why in all that is holy, would they make a drum mag for an MP5. Heck you might as well give it a bipod and a 20X scope to finish it off.
WhiteHawksan
Oct 6 2009, 03:54 PM
Well as it happens I did see a rather amusing and scarily effective MP5K LSW. With scope, c-mag, bipod, external battery etc. Looked funky.
I'll be interested to see if/what TM do with the K Optics.
Hispeed1
Oct 6 2009, 04:30 PM
Wake me up when TM makes an H&K P30 and FN SCAR L/H...
Skarclaw
Oct 6 2009, 04:47 PM
QUOTE (WhiteHawksan @ Oct 6 2009, 04:54 PM)

Well as it happens I did see a rather amusing and scarily effective MP5K LSW. With scope, c-mag, bipod, external battery etc. Looked funky.
I'll be interested to see if/what TM do with the K Optics.
They'll probably be a bit *albartroth*, kinda like the aug ones, but probably worse cause its a good deal smaller.
Wish they would just do a KA1 rail instead, that would be pretty sweet.
jond36
Oct 6 2009, 08:18 PM
Are we looking at more "recoil engine" models?
I don't speak japanese
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