guys im pretty much a noob starting topics and stuff, so i apoligise for not having pics up
On facebook, RedWolf Airsoft has just posted up some new pictures of the gbb scar and m4

im quite excited by the fact that they are gonna be around the same price as a WE



soo...if anyone will be so kind pls help me post some pics up...
or just teach me (y)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=511...3949&ref=mf


its a crying shame i live in hong kong and still dont know where redwolf is </3




btw its not on their website yet

Is it me, or did they have to cut on exterior quality to get the price down?

Might want to read the title of that. Redwolf UK......

For those without Facebook access:

Is it just me or does that mag look completely different from any currently existing GBB M4's? It sure isn't a WA, WE or Tanio Koba.

sorry i didnt get it, wahhh??

LOL I just rated my thread 5 stars lolol



lets not fear the worst, hopefully the cameras used was an absolute P.O.S so the quality of the gbb's werent compromised : D

VFC did say that the gun will not be compatible with WA....it looks similar but not the same for sure...

Will be waiting on reviews.

So far my WE Scar has made a nice wall-hanger but nothing more :-/

Prices?

im just quoting redwolf here...

''...WA Mags are not compatible, shame we know, but the VFC proprietary mags will be able to hold up to 38rds, and has a permanent bolt stop feature.
It's been tested and is able to fire a full mag with no real cool down effects on the fps.''


''.. the new VFC GBB-Rs are extremely competitive in price. Though not finalized they would be in the range of the WE series GBB-Rs, if not lower (Uncofirmed, Price may vary on release).''


''The Color could be due to a bad white balance, as the camera used wasn't the one we usually used to take our product photos.''




''Did i forget to mention that the VFC GBB-Rs are fully compatible with AEG parts (minus the outer barrel of course)!
Yes, that would mean that you can transfer all your existing bits and pieces frm your favorite AEG to the VFC GBB-R!!''

this sounds exciting

cant wait for reviews


BTW if you dont have a facebook, you're missing out a lot on the redwolf airsoft fan page, they are answering peoples questions!!

the only thing I see to be an issue is that we arent going to have much of a choice in terms of bodies and marking(in the case of M4) since companies like Prime or G&P have already made WA stuff....

I hope they don't have the same problem as the WE Scar...

Redwolf UK are a distributor for UK and Europe based airsoft retailers.

Hope they did their homework, otherwise the market will brutalize them. Coming this late in the game with anything less than a superior product would be embarassing.

Now im stuck between the VFC & WE Scar... wonder how long for RA-Tech to make a NPAS



Would Redwolf ship from the UK to a UK end user (if purchased from Redwolf website) thus skipping import/tax/customs/months waiting?

Would be a useful thing to know as i am not that far from their UK office

No, Redwolf UK only deal with trade customers.

You wouldn't really skip any tax either as they by law have to charge VAT as usual, once they do have them the usual UK stores should have them in stock or be able to get them to order.

Good catch. That's what I was going to point out too. WGCShop is the exclusive Hong Kong distributor for VFC. I wonder if Redwolf UK is getting their VFC stuff from Redwolf HK (which means going through WGC) or directly from VFC? It only matters because the more middle men, the more extra expenses get tacked on. It's somewhat irrelevant to most people I guess.

This GBB looks promising though.

Honestly, I am a little let down by the external quality on the VFC GBBr's judging from these pictures.

I've always <3 VFC - really hope it is just the poor picture quality

-Shin

If this is WE price though, that would make it cheaper than their AEG M4 and SCAR no? Not a good sign IMO since you do need some of that $$ to make sure the material used is right...in a GBB that kinda matters...

Darn, I was actually hoping that it wouldn't be compatible with AEGs. I've really come to like the grip and the reciever, while not a huge difference, it is a noticable one for me. Darn, another thing to add to the list to buy.

I'm first interested in the list of compatible parts for the VFC to aegs are. I'd be put off if its just an aeg shell with gas internals for the sake of compatibility.

Personally don't like it. But then again, SCARs are always a ***** to take pictures of upclose.

Id LMFAO it it was just an AEG shell. Why would we want AEG compatible parts... Maybe the threads for delta ring or maybe the grip. But past that, lets get real folks.

Doesn't look to good, but again the camera comes into play, but knowing VFC it'll be great.


I really hope the pistol grips are not AEG, but RS dimensions..... would like to put a MIAD( real one) on it.

I was really hoping VFC would fix up the WAM4. Too bad that doesn't seem to be the case.

There's no way that thing uses an AEG upper and lower receiver. It has a full bolt. What are you going to do, dremel out the back end of an AEG receiver to let the bolt move back and forth into the buffer tube? No way. I have a feeling Redwolf UK hasn't done all their fact checking and may have exaggerated some details when it comes to compatibility. More than likely, the threading on the upper receiver is TM Airsoft spec'ed so that you can install AEG handguards and rails on it and maybe you can use AEG inner barrels on it. That's the only limitation I see the current crop of GBBs being limited by.

I'm surprised they didn't have any engravings on the VFC receiver as that's never been something VFC has shied away from. My guess is that it's only because it is a prototype and they'll have different receiver engravings depending on the model they release. As far as finish, I'm going to wait until the product is released. A lot can be tweeked between prototype model and the final version, and who knows how much the camera and lighting comes into play with these pics.

While I wish they could have fixed the WA system, if they have improved upon that system and evolved it into something better (but no longer compatible with the old system), I'm all for it. I don't relish the idea of buying a whole new set of mags (my 11 WA mags cost me enough the first time around), but I certainly wouldn't be against buying $30-35 mags, that don't weigh over a pound and aren't affected by cool down. Price wise, I'm skeptical that it'll be under WE's prices as that's never been VFC's business model. But who knows. Personally, I'd pay top dollar for a system that works and works well, versus my current M4 GBBs that cost me a lot and have never worked well. Fingers crossed this'll be awesome.

I'll take your WA mags off you when the time comes...lol

U can take mine off if you want lol. I got 15 mags..4 more than i really want to keep. I'm really keeping an eye out on the scar though, have always been a fan of scars.

I also doubt that they are unaffected by cool down, that would truly be impressive.

While I don't really consider a TM-spec front receiver thread an improvement (I say put on the real thing), I can see why some people would like it. I don't see why VFC didn't aim for as much WAM4-compatibility as possible, considering the WAM4 aftermarket is quite large and developed.

I'm surprised VFC is shooting below WE-level prices. They've always been something of a boutique manufacture. I certainly am interested in seeing how this turns out.

Yeah, I hear ya. Being US residents, we have the luxury of buying RS accessories for use on our airsoft without ITAR concerns which is a problematic issue for everyone else outside the US. Personally, I'm all for RS rails, but it makes a lot of sense for airsoft manufacturers to acknowledge that the airsoft market is saturated with a lot of airsoft spec'ed rails. Making a GBB upper receiver compatible with airsoft rails is a very smart move IMO.

My feelings exactly. I'm disappointed by this set of pics, the finish looks below the level I would expect from VFC but hopefully it will improve.
But if the system works great then I'll probably buy in to it - despite already owning a G&P WOC - as cosmetic issues are easier to fix than functional ones…

well it'd be interesting to see ifthey did both, a RS spec and an Aisroft spec one. I think Airsoft Sepc is a wiser move as not all of use enjoy spending out on expensive branded rail systems and instead prefer to buy cheap ACM ones to mount a foregrip/flashlight on

Pre-orders can be made on RedwolfAirsoft.com

Price: $76.00

http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/...il?prodID=27737

-Shin

LOL I believe you meant to post that here, no?

On topic, this VFC better be damn amazing for coming this late into the game. However, to be honest I probably wouldn't be put off it wasn't any good because then I wouldn't feel bad about spending so much money on my WOC lol.

LOL - i fail!

Surfing arnies while taking notes in my Poli112 class

-Shin

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When I saw that link and the $76 dollars I thought you ment for the SCAR . I couldn't beleive it.....untill I clicked the link. About the PEQ though, it looks quite nice. Too bad we can't see the tan one because I'm interested if the added the correct tan straps and tan pressure pad. The shape of the pressure pad looks pretty good though.

Pics of the internals (forwarded from an aquaintance, other news sites can bugger off):

man, everything else looks so similar to the WA, I am really guessing they just modded the way the mag sits against the nozzle/bolt to render it incompatible with WA, along with a new firing/bolt catch block....I

Wow, those internals look impressive! Notice the really thin bolt-stop... Knowing VFC, this bolt stop must be über-strong, made of a secret mix of unobtainium and adamantium with a touch of fairy powder.

Scheisse, I have this growing feeling that when VFC is gonna release this bad boy, I'm gonna feel screwed for having invested sooo much in my WA.

just wait till the problems when it first field it. Just like WA, WE, TK all have problems. WA can be solve by the WOC, Bomber, or DIY from third parties, WE with their Gen 3, TK with spare parts for now.

My biggest question is are the ever gonna release a conversion kit to get a Magna setup into a VFC spec? It is based on Magna with more efficiency.

Sorry for Quasi Necro.


Has anyone heard of a release date for this?

Indeed, hope it's more than vapour