Well what do you know? First it was BBs filled with paint, then with powder and now they are exploding...
It must be potassium chlorate which is used in pyrotechnics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0914Gj01r0

I'd be concerned about contact burns on myself and my equipment. I like the recoil of the pistol though. Very nice.

Well of course! I highly doubt these were designed for skirmishing, rather for plinking and such. I think them shooting the guy at the end was just them messing around, not trying to show skirmish capabilities.

EDIT: These would look *fruitcage* cool comming out of a 200rd M203 shell.

Exploding bbs have been around for years now, not a good idea for skirmishing thats for sure.

For plinking and target shooting? Probably quite fun for that, I wonder how much they'll cost

Well the paint ones cost a $1 a pop, so I highly doubt these will be much cheaper.

propane guns+exploding bb's=win

Next-up, airsoft airburst

that's a nice GBB, looks like a TM Hicapa copy.
But it is def. nice!

+1 I wonder if you can someone interchange the slides from a TM.

From the video, I think the slide would be trade-less or stamped with KJ works

Arent all KJW guns TM compatible? (the hicapas and 1911s atleast)

I must shoot a CAW 6 shooter loaded with 100 shot moscarts and those BB's.

It would be so unbelievably cool.

As for the pistol I hope its TM compatible with slides and suck because I don't really like the one it comes with, but I like the co2 ready out the box.

Like the recoil on the pistol.

Looks like that test employee didn't like getting shot so much XD.

Even though these aren't suitable for skirmishing, they would certainly would make it hard not to call your hits.

I liked the burn mark that appeared on the vest after only a few rounds, definately keeping those off the skirmish field!

That pistol looks like it could be better than your average KJW. UNco have them in stock: click.

Edit: So do ASGI:

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=5905

I don't care what you guys say, NIGHT GAMES WITH THOSE WOULD BE SWEET!

The only thing that could make it cooler, is if they somehow made them tracer BB's as well. ULTIMATE NIGHT GAME AWESOME!!!!!!!

Err, what? Dicks/academy/wallyworld all sell them in bottles of 100 for $5. They suck but definitely not $1 a pop.




And I can see my bloody face from getting little BB shrapnel all over it, or I can see someone using these in a GBB and the gun blowing up from the BB getting hammered by the loading nozzle, then the sparks hitting gas from a slight leak carrying it into the mag making it a little grenade. I can see this especially with WE GBBRs as that mech is the same from Escort that used to chew BBs for fun.

This has bad idea written all over it, but I don't think there is to much to worry about as most airsoft fields in the states don't allow pyrotechnics and I think this would fall in that category.

It seems to me like this just uses a miniaturized form of pop caps, the kind that are used in cap guns.

I think the idea is cool but it reminds me too much of power rangers when the sparks come out

Those bb's could be good as movie stuff, for when not using a real firearm...

If it was a small private skirmish and everyone was cool with it than break out the exploding burning BBs I say!

I'd use em' as long as everyone else on the field got to as well. Scraps, nicks, scratches, cuts, and minor lacerations are just part of playing airsoft. And now you can add 1st degree burns and mild shrapnel injuries to that list as well!
Suddenly shotguns and grenade launchers just got a whole lot scarier

My biggest concern with the exploding BBs would be the way they're packed. They seem to come in a sheet that they have to be broken off individually from and you can clearly see in the video the 2 to 4 little nubs sticking out the sides of the BBs where they were broken off from the sheet. I can see those nubs scratching up your inner barrel, causing jams, tearing your hopup, and causing all sorts of generally nasty problems.

And then there is that teeny tiny little matter of these BBs being utterly unsuitable for anything outside of screwing around in very small private skirmishes. No way any proper airsoft field would let anybody use these things.


That all said... I wanna get shot by some. And then I want to shoot whoever shot me with some of them as well

Wonder if those are similar to the BB's that hit Alan Tudyk in the backside in the outtakes of firefly?

Made him jump, and then limp

i want some of those bb's for plinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pistol = Uhhh... ok another GBB.

BBs = Bad @$$!

Youre passing the pistol off as if it were another m4...


@jin
The nubs on the side of the bbs could probably be sanded down or smoothed out before use. Though it would be quite the hassle.


Interested in the pistol, though i still gotta wait and see about KWAs Cz75...

It may also just be a test sheet straight from manufacturing, I imagine the finished product won't come on sheets but in bottles and will be sanded down. Doing it by hand would suck though! Imagine sanding it and you accidentally heat it up enough or put enough pressure for it to go off XD

Those BBs might be interesting for 80's style movie shootouts

Do want.

um. what about the ridiculous seams on the BB's. pass.

ratech paintballs cost 1$ per paintball they come in test tubes per 10 and they cost 10$


i think it would ruin your barrel if one would explode inside it
those things are probably filled with small rocks so that might be hazardous to the eyes

OMG, those BBs are pure win! Before buying them or anything I want to be sure about 2 things:

-no nubs, PDI/Prom barrel compatibility?
-is there potential for catastrophic epic failure with GBB-Rs?

I just don't feel impressed with the idea that if I ever get a misfeed in my WA M4, there's a risk my whole gun brews up...

A bit like this: Epic AK fail

I wouldn't want to use a speed loader with them.... I would say not to use these in upgraded guns, esp with tightbores or if they have a habbit of jamming with cheap ammo. You would be seriously nuts to put them in a rifle you like.

Err...talking about the RA-Tech ones.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5IkcxdkOcI

+1 to that xD

The pistol looks great... And the smile on the guys face when he picked up that M4 was hilarious...

Yeah, good for guns you dont really mind dicking around with or moscarts.

I really really want to shoot these off.

That guy's smile said it all when he got to shoot someone else with the bb's.

I deffinatley want some! They look very cool. Only thing is they dont look perfectly round, so i can see jams happening then another round hitting it and blowing up inside the barrel or damaging the nozzle/hop/gearbox.

They are a nice idea although id only really use them in a spring gun like a shotty or in 203 shells as that would just be amazingly cool although could hurt if it hits skin hard enough.

Deffo not for a skirmish.

Got a look of the KJW Hi-Capa at my local shop, it seems to have good built quality but the slide has no trademarks. And instead of an SVI logo on the lower frame theres a KJ logo. I think it looks really nice though.



As for the exploding BBs, that'd be fun to use in cheap guns to plink with but those seams and the pyros would not do good in any high end gun... Espcially GBBR's.

There are laws in the UK dealing with "projecting explosives", and even if they were legal, i would never want to meet one, from either end.

I guess i'm one of very few that have been playing long enough to remember "thundercap bbs" and they have been used in filming

You used to be able to buy them openly from most model/airgun shops at the end of the 90's at the same time we saw the first few GBB pistols in the UK.

Find a GunMart mag from circa 1997 and look for "Uttings" in the airgun section

i remember being at an urban skirmish back in about 00-01 and a fellow there had some thundercap exploding bb's in some of his mags. his weapon of choice was a tm ak47 and he was showing off by firing his exploding ammo at a nearby wall during a game. his (young)audience were suitably impressed.

i asked him why he was carrying that kind of ammo in games and if he was using it against ppl and his reply was "only to shoot near them to scare them". when i asked how he would eliminate enemies he told me he had hi-caps with normal bb's in and some standards with exploding bb's in and he was changing from one to the other as he saw fit.

i then asked him what he thought would happen if he were to engage someone wearing a mesh mask and accidently shoot them in the eye region of the mask, he kinda shrugged as he was walking away... this was back when perhaps 75% of the airsofters wore mesh masks...

and this was a grey haired 'mature' airsofter, fkn moron...

We´ve had these explosive filled bbs for a decade or more in Spain. They´re sold in little packages and you can literally see a drilled hole in the bb filled with some explosive if you examine them carefully enough.
Of course nothing to skirmish with, but nice for clip making and general fun. They´re hand made and correspondingly, very expensive, 10 euro a twenty pack.

I bought the KJ 6" Hicapa.

Quick overview:
- metal upper frame + slide
- aluminium outer barrel
- brass inner
- plastic pistol grip
- aluminium magazine assist
- chrome plated spring guide
- steel hammer and firing pin
- aluminium trigger shoe
- Bomar replica sights with fibre optic highlights.

Overall weight is heavier than the Marui Desert Eagles, it is mildly front heavy for a handgun. The pistol grip is very comfortable, rounder and wider in width compared to the Hicapa or WA SVI grips, and is dimpled and textured, and doesn't cut into the fingers like the marui grips.

No seam lines, but no "trade marks" or markings on the slide. Only the KJ trademark made to look like an SVI logo.

Its 13*C here, and I am only going to use propane on this.

So I charge the magazine, load mag of BBs. First I did a coke can test, and it went through both sides. Chronoing this, I get 340fps on 0.2g, 300fps on 0.25.

I continually fired off the magazine 1 round per second, after 6 shots the blowback was starting to falter. At 10 shots the hammer refused to cock back fully. I recocked the hammer, and the fired off 10 rounds till the same happened, and I repeated till I finished off the 29 rounds I inserted into the magazine.

Last shot it refused to lock back. I waited for a minute and it did lock back.

I reloaded the magazine with BBs and gas, and tried to chamber the next round but couldn't. The BBs were caught between the interface between the metal part and the plastic BB lip part of the magazine. I removed the BB lip on the magazine and filed that interface down and it fed flawlessly.

Accuracy is about 2.5cm at 8m, 8 rounds no flyers. It is much more accurate than the TM 4.3" and 5.1", and is just under the accuracy of a 6" Desert Eagle.

Initial blowback is ok, heavy through not snappy. With the CO2 mag that will change.

Stripping it down, I found that the reason for the hammer not cocking back is cooldown and the fact that the hammer spring is > 150% of normal . Replacing the hammer spring back with a marui stock hammer spring I get 322fps on 0.2g, 284fps on 0.25g, and I could fire off all 30 rounds with no issues, though last round fires, doesn't lock back, then the next "blank"shot locks back.

The floating valve is plastic/polycarb-like material, and resembles the custom floating valves made by Firefly for the TM beretta. It is designed for high flow.

You can change the shape of the floating valve to increase about 10fps.

All these test are done at 13*C so its not terribly warm. Other things to improve it would be to lighten the slide but thats for KJ to do.

Overall, for around $110 its worth while as the construction and build quality is top notch. There are small issues, but nothing that cannot be fixed with a small file.

I guess the exploding BBs might be of some use to a film student with a springer pistol or something, but you're mad if you put them in anything you value.

Waiting for the day someone feeds them into their 6.01mm barrel and gets a jam...

Imagine a Piper Minigun at night with a 50/50 mixture of these and tracer bb's. Awesome. Other than dicking around their of no practical use and I hope they are illegal here coz if one idiot uses em in a game and someone is hurt, the consequences don't bear thinking about.

The SVI Eliminator looks quite cool, though from that review is obviously set up with heavy springs for CO2 mags.

Nice work man.. I may pick one up at xmas in the US if there's a CO2 mag available, just for giggles.

If only exploding bbs were cheaper...

aaahhh those bb bombs are what we played as a kid. just like the guy in the vid, we throw these "bbs" downwards and then they go BOOM!

baggard I take it you are refering to "thunder snaps"