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Maekl
The velocity appears to be adjustable in the range of 70m/s to 115m/s with greengas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OCeEF8PVH4&feature=sub
tome
I think the MP7 just became the "best GBB ever" with this mod haha
Bastel
It looks great. Mybe i will order on, or wait for the chinese clone^^
galactica
i will, quite literally, have two.
greg
QUOTE (galactica @ Nov 5 2009, 11:45 PM) *
i will, quite literally, have two.

Would you be so kind as to make that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,three. biggrin.gif

I like the way you can adjust it via the barrel.

When the vid first started, I thought, what a pain, having to open it up all the time to adjust it. But no!


Greg.
IBICO
According to Johnny at Ra-tech this would also fit KSC System7 pistols. So I guess any KSC or similar system that have this type of valve.
tome
I suppose you could use it on a USP match to bring it down to acceptable CQB levels haha.
greg
QUOTE (tome @ Nov 6 2009, 10:13 AM) *
I suppose you could use it on a USP match to bring it down to acceptable CQB levels haha.

If you were mad. biggrin.gif


Greg.
1st_shooter
Just spotted these on Ehobby i was gonna do a new thread but i spose i would get told off. So posting here.

KWA MP7 gbb long mags only $45!!!

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/umarex-kwa-40rd...-mp7a1-gbb.html
somegirls
is that really a bargain?

Well, the NPAS sure is great and it came out pretty fast for the MP7 actually.

But I sold my KWA MP7 anyway, since I didn't really have any use for it.... sad.gif
1st_shooter
considering the UK mags are £49.99 each i just ordered 6 of these for £185 so even if i get customs charges im still saving a substantial amount smile.gif

But this NPAS kit looks lush! if you lower the fps down to 280 ish would it intheory increase the ROF?
tome
maybe if you'd been allowed to use it full auto in germany that may have changed your mind sad.gif
somegirls
you bet buddy...
greg
I rarely use mine on auto. Only got 3 mags & like to make them last.

Mind you, it's nice to have the choice.


Greg.


greg
QUOTE (1st_shooter @ Nov 6 2009, 12:15 PM) *
1, considering the UK mags are £49.99 each i just ordered 6 of these for £185 so even if i get customs charges im still saving a substantial amount smile.gif

2, But this NPAS kit looks lush! if you lower the fps down to 280 ish would it intheory increase the ROF?

1, Are you sure about that? $45 @ current exchange rate of £1:$1.66 = £27ish. You have payed closer to £31. Sounds good so far but, by the time you pay shipment, taxes (you say 'even if', about the tax but remember it's illegal not to declare it) & admin fees, how much are you really going to save on each mag?

A tenner? Hardly 'substantial'. That's only 20% off. If you took the time to build up a decent relationship with a local dealer, or got team discount, you could possibly beet that.

What happens if one or more are duff & you have to pay to send them back? sad.gif If it ain't bought in the UK, you aren't covered by UK customer/supplier legislation.

It could be argued, that if all the customers in the UK, ordered via a UK supplier, the supplier, would be able to reduce costs, due to the economies of scale. unsure.gif Anyway, you're gunna save a few quid, good for you......................... biggrin.gif

2, Agreed, very nice. I think rof may climb a little but to maximize this, you would need to change the recoil spring, &/or lighten the bolt carrier.


Greg.
IBICO
QUOTE (1st_shooter @ Nov 6 2009, 01:15 PM) *
considering the UK mags are £49.99 each i just ordered 6 of these for £185 so even if i get customs charges im still saving a substantial amount smile.gif

But this NPAS kit looks lush! if you lower the fps down to 280 ish would it intheory increase the ROF?



If it would work like the WA system.. You would get more gas to the blowback chamber. So if you have a stronger recoil spring you would get faster rof I guess.
1st_shooter
well its cost me £184 shipped for the mags so compared to £300 in the UK even with customs yes i have made a decent saving wink.gif
somegirls
Did you see the video of the USP match?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA0MbgGYi9M...player_embedded

from 366fps to 82fps in like 5 seconds.

That's pretty impressive to say the least.
galactica
I think 82 m/s was the lower limit, not fps.

Regardless, COOL.
T0p Sp!N
QUOTE (galactica @ Nov 6 2009, 12:48 PM) *
I think 82 m/s was the lower limit, not fps.

Regardless, COOL.


Right.
If you look closely, he did leave it on the M/S setting for the last shots.
So, that was about 270 FPS, then. Nice.

It's great to see the NPAS idea going multi platform.

:thumbs-up:

-T.S.
1st_shooter
Do you think they will come with an Uber long hex wrench? I hope so...
galactica
I am quite sure they will.
CamOfNZ
QUOTE (1st_shooter @ Nov 7 2009, 09:04 AM) *
Do you think they will come with an Uber long hex wrench? I hope so...


Someone should put the boot in now, and remind them that they would be gods for making them all one standard size.
greg
QUOTE (CamOfNZ @ Nov 7 2009, 05:00 AM) *
Someone should put the boot in now, and remind them that they would be gods for making them all one standard size.

I don't understand?


Greg.
galactica
me neither.

Anyhoo, just FYI, KWA USA have semi-announced that they will have a "HPV" (High Power Velocity - shurely some mishtake) bolt available next year. I think RA Tech might just have pipped them to that.
Stuey
QUOTE (greg @ Nov 7 2009, 07:46 AM) *
I don't understand?


Greg.


I think he means making all of the adjustment screws on all of the NPAS kits the same size, which would indeed be good.

Stu
CrazyApe
Do want. The video isn't working for me what FPS did it get up to?

Utty
QUOTE (CrazyApe @ Nov 7 2009, 10:08 PM) *
what FPS

read post #1
greg
QUOTE (Utty @ Nov 7 2009, 09:38 PM) *
read post #1

270-370 in English. wink.gif


Greg.
jond36
370 FPS. ohmy.gif Now your talkin! I may have to add to my collection.

greg
QUOTE (jond36 @ Nov 11 2009, 07:50 AM) *
370 FPS. ohmy.gif Now your talkin! I may have to add to my collection.

That's nothing, replace the stock rocket valve with a KSC Glock one ($7) & you can expect around 400fps on green with a .2g bb.

The selling point for the npas is the fact that the gun becomes adjustable, without stripping it down. This allows you to use it at sites with different limits & adjust the power to counter the variation caused by ambient temperature.


Greg.
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