MC51-k


Page updates:

Click here to visit GunWorxUpdate 11/12/01: Gremlin G3k complete! We've been desparate to build such an item for ages, but haven't had the time to get hold of some of the component parts (yet). Well AndyR has had the time, energy and the effort to design and build his own version of this gorgeous replica (seen to the right).

Checkout GremlinGunworx for the latest on his newest published project, including some gorgeous photos and truly ingenius bodging. You can find more about it on the GunWorx 'How-To' page, and their G3k page.

Update 24/11/2000: I found an image on SecurityArms.com of a similar weapon, the HKG53k, that is based more on the MP5 receiver, but using a 5.56 calibre (I assume), thus it looks a lot like the above image.

Update 25/04/2001:A friend, Matthew (aka "Mobius Strip"), who read the website was kind enough to send me some photos that he had taken of a magazine article that covered this very project.

The 3 photos that I have been sent are very interesting. You can see the raw images ot the left if you are interested. (they are large images)

Photo1 Photo2 Photo3

Update 26/04/2001: Someone reminded me where the image below is from (I'd forgotten ages ago). I originally found it on a photo page on RedWolf Airsoft, and the owner is listed as someone by the name of "LTS" in HongKong.

Update 28/04/2001: Two different people emailed me, on the same day with a link to some more images of the LTS conversion over at WaregameClub (thanks guys). I have added the link below.


First contact: I was looking for details to create a handy SMG, as a backup. As an SG1 owner it makes sense to use a G3 receiver, as you can use the same magazines and accessories. While trawling the net in search of ideas I came across this image to the right. I'm not interested in the Red-Dot sight, as I see it as rather pointless on a barrel length of that size.

This started me doing a bit of research into the possibilities of producing this replica from spare parts.

If this is your photo, please get in contact with me (especially if you would like me to take it off the site).

The first concept image I ever came across
This image is of a replica owned by a fellow by the name of LTS in HongKong.

The kind of information I am constantly looking for is where to get the parts for the conversion, and the kind of machining and work that needs to be done (preferably from anyone who has attempted a similar project). Photos, weblinks and other information is gratefully accepted. If you have any such information, please get in contact with me. Arnie

Click here to visit 'The Q-Project' website The 'lazy' solution: I did get a quote for a pre-built (built-to-order) model from The Q-Project for:

MC51K custom $410
MC51K whole metal body custom $555

Of course, these quotes were only current as of 24/11/2000, so the current price may change, up or down.


The 'professional' solution: It stands to reason that the more professional solution if you have the time, energy, knowledge and inclination, is to build it yourself. An airsoft colleague was kind enough to send me three photos of a magazine article.

Curiously enough the article calls it a 'G3-k', I didn't call this project that here, for the reason that there is a custom airsoft 'G3K' floating around (I think RedWolf/Dentrinity make one), which is basically an SG1 with a folding stock. MC51k emphasises the small compact carry nature of the replica. If there are any H&K professionals out there I'm sure they will email me, and correct me with the properly determined HK model name.

As I mentioned before this photo set shows some interesting features, and illustrates how a few of the issues with this project have been overcome.

Click here to see a larger image of the article

Batteries: With the G3 stock and MC51/A3 foregrip removed there isn't a great deal of room for a battery. What you can do, is mill out the top of the G3 receiver, and remove the cocking handle tube. You can then use the freed up space to fit an AK style stick battery, much like the MP5k. To get to the hop-up you will then need to pry the 'shell-eject' cover back manually with your fingernail.

In the project shown in this article, the gunsmith has come up with a cunning solution, that maybe one day TokyoMarui will take up in their models. The magazines contain a battery, and battery connectors have been fitted to the top of the flip-up catch that covers the bb feeding hole (please note image #3, and #4 below).

Parts of the AEG conversion shown in detail, includign the battery connection and the front and back end.
1.Custom outerbarrel and cocking tube. 2. New custom endcap
3.Extended mag with encapsulated battery 4.Battery contacts on battery top, and receiver

The usefulness of the ammo and batteries being readily detachable/replaceable are obvious. Batteries and ammo can be changed as easily as changing a magazine (in the field). Obviously there can be issues with the electrical contacts between the top of the magazine and the receiver, but these should be overcome with careful machining of parts, and shimming to get a tight fit.

A variation upon the mag/battery theme is a double mag, with dummy rounds on the top of the secondary magazine. The battery has been hidden inside the dummy mag, and the same electrical connectors have been used to connect to the reciever. This type can be seen in the image to the left.

Foregrip / cocking-tube: Apart from the end-cap (which you can simply pinch from an MC51, and remove the folding stock from. -If you are feeling really lazy), the other complex piece of craftsmanship that needs to be overcome is the front end.

The front hand-grip is obviously from the TM MP5k, as is the front sight, and the cocking tube. These need to be modified slightly to fit the G3 reciever. The best image that show this is the image number 1, from the 4 images above. On the G3 barrel, there is a piece of steel that protrudes upwards, this has the cocking-tube, and outershell bolted to it by the matching fitted piece attached to the upper part that contains the foresight (I hope that sounds clear, but if not, have a look at the images here, and it should become obvious). To the best of my knowledge the MP5k doesn't have such a fitting on the standard parts, so this will have to be carefully machined up. It's also worth noting that the reciever has been cut back to allow for a longer pull onthe cokcing handle.

You can get the G3 endcap, and a variety of spare parts from RedWolf's accessory page. These parts are mostly made by Classic Army, so if you are in the UK, you should be able to order them from your local supplier (with a bit of luck). If you are in the UK, your best bet is to try AirsoftDynamics.

 

Is it started? I still haven't got round to starting this project myself, my personal aim is to start the job in the summer when I have some free time and cash to source the parts (I'll probably need most of the parts from an TM MC51, and an TM MP5k). Until then all the information here is sourced from images and conversations with other people via email, so you'll have to forgive me if any of the info here is incorrect or not detailed enough.

Arnie

 

External links:

Heckler and Koch: Firearm Numbering Systems - lists a lot of H&K models with images and parts diagrams

http://www.info-niigata.or.jp/~ukimura/G3K.htm - Umm.. it's in Japanese and it's got an image of an airsoft G3k =)

WGC 'Myguns' page - this page has more image's of the LTS MC51k, so I assume that LTS is a member there

GremlinGunworx - the only documented and complete G3-Kurtz conversion out there. Nice one Andy!


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