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Description: Prokiller Para Ordnance 14-45 Combat
Keywords: Western Arms, prokiller, para ordnance
Homepage/URL: http://www.digitalwastelands.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=66&Itemid=29
The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla
 
Posts: 1
Registered: September 2004
Location: Behind the Orange Kurtain, So. Kalifornia.



orca

The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

Registered: September 2004
Location: Behind the Orange Kurtain, So. Kalifornia.
Posts: 1,268
Review Date: 10/1/06 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: £160.00 | Rating: 8 

 
Positive aspects of the product (pros): Ultra High FPS, Very Realistic Repro and Weight
Cons: Very Long Bulky Gun

The quality, weight, appearance and performance, of this gun lives up to WA's usual high level reproduction.


This specific gun is the Prokiller Para-Ordnance 14-45 Combat which includes the following:


-Barrel Shroud/Suppressor
-8 inch Inner Barrel
-Lower Rail Adapter
-46 Round High Cap Magazine


NOTE!!! Even though this gun is called a Prokiller and it ships with the High Cap mag, it is NOT select fire. This replica is semi auto ONLY


Quality of this replica is top notch. Other then the plastic slide it looks and weighs almost the same as it's unloaded, real steel counter part. The only gripe I do have is a little magazine wobble with the 48 round mag (probably due to simple physics), but the normal size mags fit fine.


Performance of this gun , out of the box, is insanely good, due to the 8" inner barrel. The main reason why i didn't rate this gun as a 9 or 10 is simply the bulk of gun.


Chrono results here: http://www.digitalwastelands.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=75.

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Kitetsu

Registered: January 2006
Posts: 17
Review Date: 16/3/06 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 8 

 
Positive aspects of the product (pros): Very Accurate, Powerful, WA
Cons: Bulky,

This WA pistol was actually my first GBB I've ever owned and currently my only WA pistol. However, it's a paperweight right now. I ordered this gun about a year ago from UNCompany for about $240.00 including express shipping. It got here relatively quickly. I also had a King Arms 150mm Silencer and a Samurai Laser Unit for this gun ready.


[b] External Impressions [\b]


When I got this gun, I was surprised at the weight. It's very heavy, but it's relatively statued near the rear because of the large magazine. The build quality is very high quality ABS and it is indeed heavy weight. It's a P14 .. so it's a double stacked frame. Racking the slide gives a relatively good sound compared to other plastic pistol. The heavy weight material also gives a metallic cold feeling. The grip has a nice texture in my opinion and the Para Ordanance logo is nicely replicated. The silencer is a feature that is .. somewhat odd and disfigures the gun a little. It's metal, but the barrel is not, at least I don't think, the threading on it broke and the barrel broke off completely. But anyway, the silencer threading is 14mm Counter Clockwise.


You can obviously tell that the 20mm rail underneath is metal and it can accomodate a variety of accessories, flashlights, lasers, and in my case, the Samurai Laser Unit. The grip safety is responsive as well. The magazine release is well placed and can be pressed easily with the thumb. However, this gun's features are not ambidextrous, I think the magazine release is switchable. The trigger is black and is extremely responsive. It looks like it can be adjusted .. but I've never tried it.


The sights are standard Novak combat sights that are adjustable to a certain degree. They have white painted dots that .. could've been better in my opinion. But they get the job done.


The safety mechanism allows it only to be engaged with the hammer is back.


The magazine included is a real pain in the arse. Though it holds in the high 40s and is double stacked, if you drop it on anything hard, the bumper is prone to breakage because it's not a rubber bumper. It also feels a little wiggly because the magazine is two pieced together.


Screwing off the silencer, you'll find that the inner barrel is extended through the silencer. I decided to cover it up and give it a more proportional look with the 150mm KA Silencer. However, the sights are now blocked out. So I applied the Samurai Laser Unit. Not bad looking.


I also did buy a spare Infinity SV magazine for it. This gun can fit all the double stacked magazines made by WA. The SV magazine just makes this gun look more like a WE Hi-Capa than a P14.


I did notice that the slide doesn't lock back on the long magazine, but it does lock back on the SV magazine.


The markings are ...


Left side ..


Para-Ordnance [on the slide]


This product is made in Japan by Western Arms Co, Ltd. and Para Ordnance
Trade Marks are affixed under licence of PARA-ORDNANCE MFG INC. [on the frame]


Right side ..


P14-45 [on slide; the - is actually a dot]


PARA-ORDNANCE INC.
FT.LAUDERDALE FL. CANADA [on frame]


WA ASGK [right about the trigger]


[b] Performance [\b]


I'm just going to say that this gun is extremely accurate. I expect it to be from the extended barrel length and the fact that it's WA.


I've used both HFC134A and Propane on this gun. With propane, it has a very nice kick and a nice crack. It's also very powerful. This thing doesn't have an adjustable hop up and I believe it's fixed either for .20g or WA .23g ammo. Either way I'm able to hit quarters consistently (8 out of 10 times) from 20 feet with both HFC134A and Propane.


One problem with the fixed hop up is the range is lacking. It won't make it past 100 feet regardless of .20g or .23g. It can sure hit things accurately out there though.


On HFC134A .. this thing shoots relatively high in the low 300s and high 200s. On propane .. dayumm .. past 1J on this thing.


As you can tell .. this is obviously a target gun and not really a skirmish pistol. I've never really skirmished with it .. just used it as a sidearm.


People who have used it however, have told me that it has a good amount of kick to it.


[b] Problems [\b]


The screws on the grip are prone to falling off ..


Propane may have screwed my gun up .. since it fires only one shot at a time now


That long magazine is a pain to load.


The barrel threads will break on you with extended use or heavier silencer.


[b] Conclusions [\b]


This gun is certainly a WA gun performance wise, but I think that some portions of the gun could've been better (the barrel). This gun actually exceeds my expectations for a pistol. However, the size of the weapon limits it as a target pistol or some type of fantasy .45 instead of a skirmish or combat pistol.


Sorry .. I didn't have a camera at the time this gun was still intact.


 
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