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visionviper

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Registered: April 2005
Location: Ventura County, CA
Posts: 1,250

Review Date: 20/1/06

Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: �107.00 | Rating: 9

Positive aspects of the product (pros):	All parts are metal, with the exception of the body. Good accuracy and performace for the price.
Cons:	Hop-up isn't consistant, unique barrel (makes it hard to replace).

I really wasn't planning on getting a sniper rifle, but when I found out about the KJW M700P, that all changed.

The KJW M700P is based off of the Remington Model 700. The KJW M700P is also supposed to be a exact copy of the Tanaka M700P. I bought my M700 and an extra magazine, along with a propane adapter.

Looks:
I love the looks of the KJW M700. Everything is metal besides the body. I am not sure what the body is made of, but it is tough. It does get marks a bit easy, but you can just wipe them off. I also like the weight of the rifle (though when I am running with it, you won't hear me say that :P) and it feels comfortable to hold - even for a long time. On my M700, I have a Leapers illuminated recticle scope (4x magnification) and it is perfect for the M700 (but that is another review). I removed the front site on my M700 so that is would be smooth. I do have to have the end taped on though becuase I went as far as to romove the piece that kept the end on to get the smooth barrel look. All in all, the rifle looks VERY nice.

Performace:
The rifle is supposed to get about 500 or more FPS with .2s on green. Some have even reported it as high as an average of 525 with .30s. I do not have a chrono to actually check, but it is definately a beast with propane - and I am using .25s.

Accuracy:
I currently have the stock barrel in, but an getting a tightbore soon. With the stock barrel I was able to get a headshot (he was shooting at a teammate and it was the only shot I had) at over 100 feet. There was little wind. I was also almost able to hit another person in the upper body at 150 or 175 feet, but it went to the right about a foot. From the whole day of use, I would say the accuracy is great - especially for only costing $190.

Upgrades:
You can either get a 6.04 or 6.03 tightbore barrel for the M700. Also, any bi-pod that can attach to the M24 can also be used on the M700. There is a RIS rail to which you can attach a scope to.

Conclusion:
For $200, what are you waiting for - go get it! Most definatly a great sniper rifle, for a newbie or a person who has a collection of sniper rifles. I consider this gun a must have for anyone who is just getting into being a sniper, and a nice addition to a armory to anyone.

Pictures:
-The first is a picture of the whole M700.
-The second is of the bolt, RIS rail, and everything in that area
-The third shows the safety switch (which is on in the picture)
-The fourth picture is the magazine
-The fifth picture shows the "Manufactured by KJWorks" that is on the M700
-The final picture shows the hop-up dial, which you turn.

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Kitetsu

Registered: January 2006
Posts: 17

Review Date: 16/3/06

Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 8

Positive aspects of the product (pros):	Powerful, Inexpensive, Quiet
Cons:	Not greatly accurate

The KJW M700P marks, in my opinion, an entry into inexpensive airsoft sniping. KJW obviously copies models from other companies. Their P226 from TM, their M9's from TM, and now their M700s from Tanaka. However, don't look down on them because they are clones. The M700 has met my expectations for a gas sniper rifle, especially for about $200.00.

My M700 was purchased along with the $80.00 long magazine by Tanaka. Many people tell me they are not compatible .. well I've proved them wrong. I also installed a Tasco replica of the Leupold Mark 3 and the King Arms Harris Bipod.

[b] Externally [\b]

For $200.00 you'd expect the stock to be shoddy and plasticly like the VSRs right? Hah, well then your really off. The stock resembled my CA M24 a bit in the texture section. The texture of the stock, is more like dry wall though. I'm actually convinced that it was probably made out of dry wall .. which would be very amusing. The weight of the stock however, didn't come close to the quality and godly feeling of my M24's stock. But the M700's stock in its entirety actually really nice. The butt of the stock also has a rubber pad.

The barrel of the gun is actually quite skinny if looked from a distance. It's also very glossy and shiny .. which was a little disappointing to me .. but I expected it. The receiver also had a similar gloss. The bolt is zero resistance and is very easy to pull back, but you need to wear it in first, or it'll catch on the side. More on this later.

On the front of the stock, there are two sling studs and one in the back.

The KJW M700 comes with a set of front and rear sights, both adjustable for windage and elevation. Both can be removed as well. Though some people find this difficult.

The KJW magazine is pretty high quality and when filling it, it doesn't produce much sound at all, as with their pistols. The Tanaka on the other hand is much like other GBB magazines out there. The KJW magazine obviously holds 11 rounds.

With the long magazine in .. this gun looks kinda like an M14. Odd eh? I like it though.

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[b] The bolt [\b]

Many people think that the KJW doesn't have the PCS system. Your right it doesn't. But it does allow the adjustment of velocity with a simple adjustment of one of the two flathead screws in the bolt. I haven't actually tested this to the fullest extent, but it does variate the velocity and pressure output.

The bolt itself can be removed by the press of a button near the trigger area.

Like I said before, the cycling of the bolt has no resistance, and it is very crisp and smooth. However, with the bolt back, it does have a good amount of movement and wiggle to it. Which I don't particularly like. But it's tolerable.

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[b] The Hop Up [\b]

The hop up is adjustable with the dial on the front portion of the scope rail. It's actually really precise and won't budge. However, I found it inconsistent. Perhaps the alignment of the bucking? I'd have to check that out.

[b] Performance [\b]

I've only tested this beast on propane and it is extremely powerful, but is a little under the power of the Tanakas. It is probably a good 560 - 580 fps in room temperature.

Unfortunately, this gun has little accuracy past 160 feet, at least in my opinion (I have very high expectations for a sniper rifle).

I've put over a couple thousand shots in this gun in the course of a month just for testing purposes. Please note that I use unlubricated propane because the silicone, as with any precision rifle, will mess up the accuracy.

With every type of ammunition, I've had trouble hitting a head sized target (8"x8") at 160 feet.

The only effective ammunition that I found was the Digicon .43g. Yeah, I know they suck, but they work in this gun solely because of their weight. Hitting that head target is consistent only with the .43g's and 9/10 times it would hit.

Beyond about 175 feet with .43g's is really a stroke of luck. It's impossible to hit a guy in the head consistently past 175 feet. I however, could hit a basketball backboard at 250 feet with .43g's 7/10 times. Not bad I would say. But they fall under my standards.

The sheer range that the M700 can get is amazing .. 300 + feet I would suppose? It just goes on forever. Well past that 250 foot basketball backboard.

Make sure you clean your barrels though, especially every 100 shots.

After cleaning the barrel, however, you'll still experience some shot inconsistency. Probably from the hop up. It can get all over the place.

I've taken this baby to about 2 games now and have gotten decent results.

I actually scored a good 16 kills in the total of both of them, however, shots remained in the ranges of 130 to 160 feet with PHX .28g ammunition. It took me alot of reloading just to do it.

One thing you have to realize about this gun, is that it is EXTREMELY QUIET. Your shots can go undetected for from literally 20 feet.

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[b] Conclusions [\b]

This gun is amazing for the price. No lie. But it is not the best sniper rifle out there. But for $200.00 you get a solid, mid range accurate rifle, that will out perform most AEGs in range and accuracy.

Do yourself a favor and buy one, because these things rock.

If they ever made an M24 or AICS. I'll love them forever.

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The Bushman

6mm HUNTER

Registered: June 2005
Location: in your shadow
Posts: 2,169

Review Date: 13/6/06

Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: �180.00 | Rating: 8

Positive aspects of the product (pros):	Cheap, solid build, high power with no stressed moving parts
Cons:	inconsistant, requires breaking in, overly greased, accuracy problems

Well to not bore you with another long haul of the same review; I will keep it to the point.

1) Build Quality is solid and high enough quality. enough said.

2) The gun runs at very high power. Mine chronographs 545fps down to 400fps with 0.20g on predator gas! Yep that is alot of variation. The gun has no PCS system like the newer tanaka rifles. However it can still be adjusted inside the bolt to reduce power. I explored this, but found my own was already on max setting from new. It can be adjusted down to sub 1 joule, but would take time and a chronograph.

3)When new, it fires terribly. You must clean all the excess grease that had been put onto the bolt and action and be sure to note that if you don't clean it, this grease migrates onto your hop and your barrel. I put much of this down to peoples complaints of accuracy that is always blamed on green gas on the KJW HOP. Be sure to spend along time cleaning the black gunk from the barrel/hop.

4) Internally the HOP is the only major change from the tanaka. It is non standard and at the moment there are no barrels or hop units that can easily be dropped in. The barrel is 6.05 I think but am not sure and is brass.

5) Firing: Well last time out it outranged a 310fps G-SPEC easily with 0.36g I will say the G-SPEC had better accuracy and consistancy. The KJW M700P is good for man sized targets but past 40m will struggle with a head sized target. Max range you could expect to hit a target is maybe 80m.

6) Still experimenting with different ammo but so far STRAIGHT 0.36g whites have been ok. Used 0.30g aswell which go a fair bit further/faster. More economical with little loss in grouping.

7)It is often hard to follow a BB's flight on only 3 magnification they go that fast. I suggest 4 mag or more, scopes if using it full power.

8) when new, it struggled to feed pellets and mangled a fair few in the breach. This wore in and now is not an issue. This gun takes at least 200 shots to get going near what you are looking for. Maybe 1000 pellets are required to get it sorted fully. Stick at it.

9) mags are solid and no leaks, however we found the gun worked better with less gas in the mags. Only 1 second burst of charging gets you 1 mag of 11 pellets. I will experiment again soon with different gas charges. The BB loading spring is very strong and hurts your fingers if reloading alot on the range. Sad

10) The manual stripping guide is wrong and omits you must unscrew the front sling swivel to remove the action from the furniture.

11) I have fitted a swivel/tilt bipod and it is all solid, however I did have to drill the front pin to have a larger hole. Forget non swivel bipods btw as they will not level in woodland environments and therefore throw your hop alignment out. Instead of buying sling swivels I fitted loops of parachord and then fitted my sling to them. This means my sling is silent with no metal clanking bits.

12) HOP dial is click stop and very nice in my opinion compared to AEG versions. I have not had a problem with the HOP.

13) The gun suffers cooldown from such powerful shots and can go down upto 100 fps if you rattle through a full mag. So slow aimed shots is the key as always. Gas suffers far more from inconsistancy than spring rifles, however if you take your time on shots, it delivers.

14) Great value for money and so are the mags. it even has iron sights for really skint bolt action hunters. These take 2 minutes to remove fully. A friend has the take down version but I have not had chance to compare it yet..... keep watching.

15) You must clean the barrel every 5 mags for peak performance. I advise keeping a tiny bit of gas in the mags when storing them too to keep seals in correct shape. it comes with no cleaning rod and requires a very long one as the barrel is massive. I use an M14 rod.

16) The G_SPEC is the master of closer ranges but for extreme sniping I suggest gas does have it over the spring guns. Contrary to what is said above.... this rifle is not quiet and has a loud crack as a report. This is loud, but hard to determine distinct direction in woodland.

I found 0.30g to work best. Accuracy was indeed not amazing no matter what pellets I tried. I used them to hit a mansized target at 105m (343 feet) slightly downhill but it took 30 shots.

The mags have a spring fitted that is too strong and pushes them up too much causing them to scratch sometimes. Apparantly leaving the pellets loaded over night can soften the springs off abit and ease the problem.

If you want a cheap copy of a tanaka then look no further. The KJW M700P is great value for money and at less than most AEG's price tags, gives solid build and amazing range. Expect to realisticly fire 3 pellets to get a HIT though.

Mags can do loads of shots on one charge of green gas. However I suggest putting only a tiny burts of gas into them (enough for 1 mag only) and the gun fires more accuratley.

With no wrestling with the bolt to contend with you can slowly recock the rifle unseen for a second shot. Smile

I think for somoeone wanting better groups then they should invest more cash in a TANAKA that is reported to be much more consistant.

On this note: I suggest the KJW is better for a DM than a "sniper"

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Bldr.dh

Registered: May 2006
Posts: 157

Review Date: 1/2/08

Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: �125.00 | Rating: 8

Positive aspects of the product (pros):	Extremely powerful, amazing feel/finish, easily servicable, relatively cheap, easily upgraded
Cons:	Out-of-the-box accuracy leaves something to be desired, Too powerful? Heavy for some

<a href="http://modernairsoftwarrior.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/rifle2.jpg" title="rifle2.jpg"><img src="http://modernairsoftwarrior.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/rifle2.thumbnail.jpg" alt="rifle2.jpg" align="left" hspace="5" /></a>This isn't exactly a brand new item fresh out of the factory, however there aren't as many thorough reviews or as much information on it as one might think. I know I spent many hours scouring the internet for information on this rifle. So, if you're in the market for this rifle, I hope this review will help you in the decision-making process.

Some basic retail information: This rifle generally sells in the $210-$240 range and can be found on a number of online websites. It is definitely not difficult to find.

I will break up the review into the following sections:

 -Initial Impressions
-Appearance/Feel/Build Quality
-Performance
-Technical Information
 -Pros & Cons
-The Bottom Line


Okay, on with the review:

Initial Impressions

<a href="http://modernairsoftwarrior.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/rifle4.jpg" title="rifle4.jpg"><img src="http://modernairsoftwarrior.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/rifle4.thumbnail.jpg" alt="rifle4.jpg" align="right" hspace="5" /></a>To be honest, when the box first arrived, I was surprised to see how small it was. For some reason I got the impression that the box would be huge. No matter. I won't bother describing the box, since I'm sure no one really cares... it's what's inside that counts, right? Upon opening its container, I was immediately greeted by a very beautiful looking object. This was my first higher-end airsoft weapon, so after seeing and holding budget sniper rifles, this seemed as though it was of immensely good quality. The finish on the metal is excellent, the stock feels incredibly solid, and everything is mated well (read: no creaks, wiggles, etc.). My first thought upon holding the rifle was that it feels as though I'm holding a substantial object. It feels anything but cheap.

Appearance/Feel/Build Quality

Unfortunately since this was (and still is) my first higher-end airsoft purchase, I don't have a great point of reference for quality, however I can tell you the quality of this rifle is leaps-and-bounds beyond the that of the budget sniper rifles coming out of China.

The stock is made of a nylon fiber-like material and is incredibly solid. Tapping on it gives a thick sounding thump, as opposed to an insubstantial hollow noise. There is absolutely zero flex. Basically, you could use it to do anything from hammering nails to smashing zombies' heads in. The finish is exactly like drywall and is very comfortable to grip. One thing you'll notice is that both the grip and foregrip are massive. I don't think I've felt any rifle with as big a grip as this. It's about 5 inches in circumference while most other rifles will be about 3 inches. It felt a bit awkward at first, but I've grown to like the feel. I would describe it as holding a fist full of Chuck Norris (not the dirty part, mind you). It just feels substantial.

The metal on this gun is worlds better than what you would find on a budget sniper rifle. It appears to be machined aluminum or steel -- definitely not molded pot metal. The finish is nice and uniform, however some people may find it too shiny. I painted mine.

The outer barrel does seem a bit small for such a high powered (real steel) rifle. This is purely an aesthetic problem and is personal preference as well. I remedied the problem by making a suppressor for it.

In my (humble) opinion, the place where this gun really shines is the action and trigger mechanism. Though I have never cycled a bolt on a real rifle, I hear this feels exactly like a real one. It isn't as smooth as perhaps a quality spring boltie, but that's to be expected since it doesn't have the massive cylinder to keep the bolt from wiggling around. Obviously since this is a gas rifle, there is no spring to work against and it makes cycling the bolt a very quick and fluid motion. The trigger is nice and crisp and incredibly easy to pull. Unfortunately I can't compare this with a higher end gas rifle (such as a Tanaka), but I enjoy the feeling of shooting the gas rifle much more than that of a spring rifle.

Performance

<a href="http://modernairsoftwarrior.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/rifle1.jpg" title="rifle1.jpg"><img src="http://modernairsoftwarrior.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/rifle1.thumbnail.jpg" alt="rifle1.jpg" align="left" hspace="5" /></a>Here comes the part which I'm sure most of you have been waiting for. I will try not to sugar-coat this part. Out of the box the power of this gun is incredible. As I'm sure most of you have already found out, this rifle pumps out over 500 fps using .20g BBs. This translates into about 2.5-2.9 J... I'll let you convert for the velocities using different mass BBs. I don't have a chrono, so I can't give you real-world testing numbers, but I can tell you the numbers you find online are accurate.

Obviously the word 'accurate' is synonymous with a sniper rifle. Out of the box this aspect could definitely be improved. I have yet to do any thorough testing using a target, so I can't give you any pictures of groupings. After doing some basic sighting in with the scope, I was able to hit a 3" post at 100' about half the time using KSC .30g BBs. Sometimes the point of impact would be dead-on at the center of the crosshairs, other times the BB would fly up, down, left, right, it was seemingly random. I will do some more thorough testing in the *hopefully* near future. Since this is a gas gun, I can't shoot in cold weather, and we are already way past overdue for winter weather.

The stock hop up works well. Turn it up, the BB goes up, turn it down, the BB goes down. I get the feeling that the stock hop up bucking is causing some inconsistencies with the accuracy, so a new one will likely help. More on this later.

Technical Information

One thing that I feel is quite handy with this weapon is that it is well engineered. This means that anybody who is at least somewhat technically minded will have very little difficulty understanding the ins and outs of this rifle. Upgrading it, with special attention paid to the barrel and hop up assembly, appears as though it will be a piece of cake.

Here are just some useful bits and pieces I've managed to pick up online:
<ul>
<li>Remove the orange airflow restricting piece located in the bolt to help improve velocity as well as (supposedly) accuracy.</li>
<li>Hop up is compatible with TM VSR-10 buckings and barrels. This makes upgrading easier than other rifles (Tanaka, for example)</li>
<li>The magazine spring is often strong resulting in the BBs getting scratched -- this will cause problems with accuracy. To remedy the problem, just leave some BBs inside the magazine overnight.</li>
<li>Some people experience better consistency between shots if the magazine is filled only partially with gas.</li>
</ul>
Pros:
<ul>
<li>Fantastic looking and feeling weapon.</li>
<li>Easily servicable.</li>
<li>Relatively cheap.</li>
<li>Easily upgraded.</li>
<li>Extremely powerful.</li>
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Cons:
<ul>
<li>Out-of-the-box accuracy leaves something to be desired.</li>
<li> Perhaps too powerful?</li>
</ul>
The Bottom Line

If you're looking for a relatively cheap sniper rifle with a better feel compared to a budget rifle from China, this is probably your gun. While straight out of the box it does not meet my standards for a sniper rifle in the accuracy department, I believe with a little time and effort (and money... not much though), this rifle can become a reliable weapon system. I cannot tell you for certain, as I have not tested it myself, but I think with an upgraded hop up and a tightbore barrel, accuracy will improve immensely. This rifle has the inherent problems of any gas rifle, and perhaps the effects are magnified because its quality is not up to par with say a Tanaka, but I can tell you that most of these problems are avoidable, or at least can be kept to a minimum. Barring performance, the gun is an absolute pleasure to shoot. When you first crack off that first shot, the feeling of power that goes along with it is something to be remembered. I know for certain I am not disappointed with my purchase.