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FarEast
Staff Writer
Registered: May 2005
Location: Yokohama Japan
Posts: 2,907
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Review Date: 17/2/06
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Excellent build Quality, Excellent Price in Japan, Good Accuracy, Excellent ROF, Perfect straight from the box!
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Over Priced outside of Japan, Low FPS for some.
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Well the long wait is over and the Oasis is definitely worth drinking from!
I picked the Tokyo Marui MP7A1 up from Frontier for an excellent 17,980 JPY along with a spare battery and some magazines. (That’s right TM finally managed to release the Mags and Batteries on the same day!)
TM has done an excellent job packing the MP7A1 up with a great cover picture of the MP7A1.
The internal layout really does give you a nice surprise.
Straight away you aware of the effort TM has put into making the MP7 a complete package for the buyer. And you really feel it when lifting the MP7 out of the box! This is in no way like the toy feeling I got when I picked up the AEP 18c this has some weight to it and a familiar feel for those that have used MP5's, G36 and the G3 ranges.
Apart from the weight of the weapon you also notice the ergonomics and balance. It feels totally natural to fire the MP7 from either a pistol grip position or a more firm firing platform using the fore grip and shoulder stock, but more of that later lets look at the weapon itself!
Let’s take a look at the trades, As some of you remember I took a lot of photos at the 'Blackhole Show' earlier this year of the MP7 and its trades and I have found a few more that you will all be happy with.
Nothing around the selector area has changes and still supports the Navy style options of fire along with the calibre markings
Also on the pistol grip it still sports the 'HK MP7A1' markings on both sides.
On the right side of the gun you have the Tokyo Marui stamp, now never fear as I know for a fact that some one on these forums could possibly making a plastic pressed foil to go over this with the Heckler and Koch trades.
Now one of the new finds is serial number plate found on the lower receiver next to the retractable stock, this is a beautiful touch! Unfortunately these are not individual for each gun as I inspected the 3 I have and they all carry the same markings, possible the second batch might have a different serial number but we will have to wait and see!
The magazine is a low-cap and will hold 50 rounds of ammo. In my opinion it’s made to a lower standard than the rest of the weapon, I know it's only a magazine but they do add to the feel of the weapon.
The magazine is released by pulling down on a latch located on the bottom of the trigger guard exactly like that of a Walther P99
The magazine only carries two marks and that is a calibre marking and capacity but still it's a nice touch and one that TM normally leaves out.
And also the one on the dust cap found on the bottom of the magazine.
Moving on to the sights, Now these are excellent quality and many of you might not realise but they are two in one sights. The first is your standard pistol style sight
The front sight is not adjustable but the rear is by using the thumb dial seen on the right hand side of the gun.
Obviously these are used if your holding the gun in the pistol style grip position using the dots to align your target, but when shouldered using the collapsible stock it's impossible to align them or see them, this is where the flip up sights some into their own!
This time the front sight is adjustable using the dialled disk in the middle of the site to raise it up or down, the rear is again adjustable by using the thumb dial on the right hand side. Both are very easy to use and don’t require a tool to adjust them.
The Iron sights are of a very high standard with no wobble at all both the front and back sights are spring loaded so they snap up and down with a little pressure. One thing I did notice about the sights is the fixing screw it uses a 'Philips' type head which I feel detracts from the overall aesthetics of the weapon and it would have only taken a little effort to replace these with 'Hex' bolts.
The fore grip is made of the same high quality ABS as the body of the weapon and is mounted to the body of the MP7 as one piece, meaning if you don't want it you will need to cut the body of the lower receiver to remove the hinge joint.
Once in the ready positioned its very sturdy with no play either forward or backwards or from side to side. The design of the fore grip is excellent as its locking feature prevents any unwanted play or sudden movement.
To replace the fore grip to it's collapsed position you will need to pull the catch on the bottom of the grip down, trying to return the grip to its standby position without pulling the catch will probably result in a damaged weapon but it the latch is strong enough to withstand enough pressure for you to realise what you are doing might not be the right way about it!
Moving to the rear of the gun and the collapsible stock. The stock is locked like all other H&K weapons when in the standby position and it's released by the small latch seen here between the hex bolt and the bolt lever,
Unfortunately the stock has only two positions fully extended or fully collapsed.
On the left side of the stock plate there is another latch pulling this down disengages the stopping pin allowing you to remove the stock completely
Now a very surprising thing is the Cocking lever, like all TM's it opens the ejection port giving you access to but more on that later. The cocking lever just like the real steal counterpart is ABS! I never knew this until now and a few seconds research, also the lever is in two parts that clip together. To operate it you must pinch both sides together while pulling it back in the standard fashion. This unlocks the lever and unable the ejection port to open. Again like all TM's it will not lock back so it's very fiddly to get at the Hop-Up unit.
Once the cocking lever is pulled back the ejection port is revealed, now as you can see the selector is slightly in the way which mean you'll need to take it off safety to adjust the 'Hop-Up' which is a little worrying.
The rail that runs the length of the gun is of a very high standard along with the two side rails the only problem is that the two 'Hex' Bolts aren't flush with the bottom of the rail thus preventing you from mounting anything on these two points.
While seeing if they would screw in any further I checked the other hex bolts on the weapon and found out they are all in need of a tighten.
Now to the front of the gun, To remove the front cap you'll need to flip the MP7 over and push down on the square button just before the front cap
Once the front cap is open it reveals the battery compartment and inner barrel.
The battery is slid inside very easily and then pushed home using the tab that sticks out. There is an arrow on the battery telling you which way it needs to be inserted.
To remove the battery you pull back the tab that you used to push home.
One of the other features of the gun is that you must have the weapon on safety before the battery will slide home, if it’s not in the safe position the battery will stick out a few centimetres.
The new 7.2v EX battery is a lot bigger than your ole AEP 7.2v battery and also the connectors differ which means you won't be able to use the standard AEP battery in your MP7 and vice versa.
The Ex Charger is of the same style as the previous AEP charger.
I have taken a picture of the charger specs for European buyers that want to chop and customise it to fit a fast charger.
Once replacing the front cap we notice the Flash hider, this again is made of high quality metal and screw into place.
No to attach any silencer/suppressor you’ll need to attach the barrel adapter that comes with the MP7.
1st you’ll need to remove the flash hider.
Then screw the adapter into place, thus giving you the 14mm thread needed to take a silencer.
or can be removed for the sleek sexy look!
The only accessories or extras available on the day of release were batteries and low-cap magazines.
Now For the Tests!
First of all the FPS tests. These where done in an indoor range using SIIS BB's.
The weapons where held in braces to prevent movement.
The Joules were worked out using the program available through Arnies Airsoft
As you can see the initial Tokyo-Marui trials were obviously done with 0.12g BBs to exaggerate the power of the MP7 but when compared to the 18c it is clearly obvious something is very different to the internal workings of both guns.
The second test was the Rate Of Fire test. This was conducted by timing from the 1st shot to the 1st dead mans click, due to the need of special equipment this is a rough basis to gage the rate of fire.
Again the MP7 clears an average of 11 BB's a second over the Glock's 9, Over all I would have to say that the internals of the MP7 are probably of either a totally different nature or utilise them better than the 18c. But only the striping of the two will yield the truth.
Let’s take a look now at the groupings and range.
The target was set up 15 meters away using 0.20g SIIS BB’s while the MP7 was set up again in the braces to prevent movement. This is to make sure the gun does not move during the test, thus affecting the groupings between shots.
Conclusion
I would have to say that the new TM MP7A1 will not disappoint the harden fan boys nor the serious collector looking for an almost exact replica, as for skirmishers you'll know as soon as you pick this weapon up that it will be a very efficient tool in your arsenal.
There was a few things I wasn't happy with such as the 'Philip's Head Screws' on the flip up sights and also the quality of the magazines but these are minor things and the screws can be switched over very easily by even the most inexperienced techs’ among us.
Rating:
Packaging 10/10
Quality 9/10
Ergonomics 10/10 (Very very nice in the hands)
Realism 9/10 (but I have no idea what to look for having not handled a real MP7)
FPS 7/10 ( I would have been much happier if the weapon had been around 0.7J and I’m sure a spring upgrade will rectify the problem)
ROF 9/10 (Not 100% accurate but close enough)
Overall 8/10
A few niggling things that were very simple to rectify yet weren't and the slightly lower than expected FPS, but apart from that the MP7 is a great little weapon, sure it’s not going to compete with your full size AEG’s but it’s another benchmark in Airsoft that will hopefully inspire other companies to push the boundaries and limits of the current technology.
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S.T.O.R.M: Bringing the Honor back to Airsoft
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HaVoC
- 51% MOTHERF***ER - 49% SON OF A B***H -
Registered: September 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 13,626
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Review Date: 24/2/06
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £180.00
| Rating: 9
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Pretty much everything!
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Fiddly mag release, fiddly cocking handle, fiddly hop-up, no discharger.
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I've gotta agree with most of the things said above.
I paid £180 for mine from Wolf Armouries, which included one mag and one battery/charger, plus the gun and assorted bits and pieces.
It's well-packaged and should stand up to anything Parcel Farce can throw at it (or throw it against!).
The ergonomics of this thing are FLAWLESS - it kicks the P90 to the floor, not feeling too short with the stock extended but being absolutely tiny at the same time. It really is a baby gun, made up of all the choicest bits of the MP5 and USP series of guns, with the gaps filled in with superb design.
Power is a little low but range seems skirmishable, even if the shots take a while to get there. Accuracy seems excellent, and the hop-up seems to stay put pretty well.
After-market parts are limited in the extreme at the moment (apart from RIS accessories, obviously), but they're very cheap - here in the UK, 50rd mags can be had for £15 a piece (I have 2 more on order), and batteries are about £16, which means that it's a cheap gun to get running, and indeed to keep running.
The mags have all fed flawlessly, and I've gotten about 12-14 mags (I forgot to count, frankly) out of the battery after the first charge, all at a reasonable rate of fire, with a minute or two's pause between magazines (as I reloaded). This should increase slightly after another charge or two, but is far better than I was expecting anyway.
As for niggles, I have just a few. Firstly, due to the size of the gun, the hop-up is fiddly to access. Also, the magazine release feels flimsy, needing to be pushed down on BOTH SIDES to properly release, unlike my KSC USP Compact (with which is shares the design). This part is plastic on the MP7, whereas it is metal on the USP, so this may be why. Third, the cocking handle feels really naff. It's not important unless you need to get at the hop-up, but in pulling it back you tend to bend it slightly off centre. This makes it get stuck and not pull back. Some giggling is required as you gently pull it to get it to come back, as it must be dead-centre. Finally, the charger is exactly that - a charger. You should always discharge NiCD batteries (as this one is) for good battery health, and the only way to run down the battery at the moment seems to be to fire the gun a lot (using up BBs, of course), because the propriatory battery will not connect to normal chargers.
Apart from these niggles, I'd recommend the gun 100%. It's tiny, pointable, supremely comfortable and fires like a dream.
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ratsapprentice
Registered: April 2005
Location: London
Posts: 267
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Review Date: 4/6/06
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 9
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ergo's, size, range!, battery changes
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not much to mention that hasn't been said already, but i have used this instead of a naeg for a few games now, and i didnt suffer from it, if anything i got more kills with it, although the range isnt as much as a full sized aeg, its still very shkirmishable, the build quiality seems to be more on par with classic army than marui and erm...its very quiet, very very quiet, so quiet in fact thatyou cant hear it from ten metres away with a silencer on it
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England expects that every man shall do his duty
- Lord Nelson
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PenGun
Registered: October 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 549
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Review Date: 23/7/06
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 10
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Build quality,ease of use, accuracy, quietness!
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ROF seems low, sticky mags
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Very good, impressively robust offering from Marui. This isnt intended to be a full-on battle rifle but if you need a good, ultra-reliable CQB weapon, the MP7 is for you! Accuracy is surprising for such a short barrel though obviously power is going to suffer, sights are very good too. Add a reddot, and a few hicap mags and this little beauty will do its part over and over again! The ROF seems a hell of a lot lower than 850rpm, more like 500 to 600rpm max. but its quiet and will put all bbs in one ragged hole at 7m, which is more than good enough for CQB. Still have to test my MP7 at longer ranges but 15m chest hits shouldnt pose much of a problem, maybe even 20m on a calm day. Probably THE perfect panic/backup weapon!!!
Edit: there isnt much point comparing this to a full-blown AEG...think of it as an alternative to a full-auto GBB or CQB primary. It is definitely small and light enough to serve as a backup gun, where reliability and firepower count 
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"I am the Great Gun-Hoolio...!!!"
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ChiPyPoi
Registered: October 2006
Location: Hercules, CA, USA
Posts: 30
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Review Date: 3/12/06
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 10
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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perfect for CQB in ever aspect
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hard to aim with stock fully extended and wuth a paintball mask on
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amazing little gun, seved me well in the CQB games i used it in,
highly recomended
MP7 + full auto + red dot = CQB ownage
[EDIT: be careful when using the cocking handle, if you hold onto it too long, the little piece of plastic that the cocking spring is attached to WILL break, happened to mine =/, even though it's easier to adust hop-up now =)]
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ADF
Registered: February 2006
Posts: 42
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Review Date: 23/12/06
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 10
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======= Some info about ROF, Hi-Cap performance =======
Everybody knows marui claims 850 rounds per minute, when actual rate of fire is only about 600-700.
Highly intrigued, I remove the fuse (replace it with small copper tube), and cycled battery 3 times with peak charger.
After that, ROF sounds more like a full-size AEG and ever bit higher. I record firing sound with a fresh battery and count amount of shots within 1 sec. (see picture!) It indicates 15 rounds a second, or 900 rounds per minute!
Wall charger, that comes with a package, still in the box - there is no 110v outlets in Russia (standard in our country 220v), and I use only my peak-charger to charge the battery - and every charge it performs out the same ROF.
I chronoed my MP7 both in semi and full auto mode - in both modes it indicates 74 m/s (with deviation of 1-2 m/s) with 0.2g BB’s, while rate of fire is as mentioned above!
At this point, I already going putting 2 cells 1000mAh li-po inside (confiscated from RC-plane), but with so adequate firerate and power (isn’t hi in fact, but very impressive for such a small gun - anyway, if I need more power I just bring in game with full-size tuned AEG) I have no reason to do it - first, lithium needs some cut-off’s inside the gun and more likely will setup permanently (not good), another point - best recharging time for li-po is 1 hour, when nicad can be filled in 15 minutes without damage to it! And for higher amount of electricity I better order spare nicads. And third point - li-po’s works bad at low temperatures and I better use nicads in winter games to ensure good firerate and lifespan of the battery.
======= And some info about 190 round mags =======
Instruction tells, they jam some times - and, unfortunately, this is more than just a true!...
Before I disassemble it, right out of a factory package hi-cap works impressively bad! Both in semi and full it can’t feed, after removing and shaking it, it feeds few BB’s and become jammed again!
Then I managed to disassemble the mag and sand out anything inside a feeding channel, that looks out of place, applied drop of machine oil into elevator’s spring and silicone spray into feeding channel.
After that it works flawlessly! Approx. 2/3 of mag can be emptied without single missfeed, but for shooting out remaining BB’s you have to crank elevator wheel again.
By the way, actual hi-cap capacity without BB’s remaining in a feeding tube is only about 150-154 rounds, not 190.
Overall, MP7 is a very valuable package, ever it is not so powerfull, as full-size AEG-s can be.
Any H&K fan definitely must have it in a home arsenal!
And yes, it definitely needs a red-dot!
23.12.2006
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ryguy0492
Registered: December 2006
Posts: 266
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Review Date: 2/1/07
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 10
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Weight, Price, Metal retractable stock, 800-1000 shots on a full battery. all around awomse
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Small motor, making for limited upgrades.
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Nothing more to say that hasnt been said already, an amazing gun, very accurate, decent speed, buy one today :D
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trading a gen 4 ipod with dead battery ( new batterys are 10-15 dollars) for a cyma g18c or decent clone aeg
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SNOGER
Registered: May 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 140
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Review Date: 3/6/07
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £180.00
| Rating: 9
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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So Compact
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Only 250 Fps
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I would have to give it a 10 on realism.Tokyo Mauri did a great job on this gun.Its classified as a sub but is great as a side arm.300 FPS would of been nice on this gun but i still recomend it to all.
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 Meet the Dancing Cats Friend
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neros131
Registered: July 2006
Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 87
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Review Date: 15/7/08
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 9
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Compact, Accurate, Decent Rate of Fire, Decent FPS, Lots of Aesthetic and Internal Upgrades
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Lower FPS than AEG's, May Be Too Compact for Some Users
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Tokyo Marui HK MP7A1
Introduction:
I have recently started playing more CQB at my local field, CQB City in Stockton, California. I started out using my AK-74MN from Tokyo Marui, but found that too difficult to maneuver, and my Tokyo Marui 1911 is too underpowered to be a primary. This led me to a hunt for a “in-between” SMG, and I focused primarily upon P90’s and MP5’s from Tokyo Marui. The closed I came to making a decision, the more I wanted to be able to use the gun inside the kill house, which led me back towards Machine Pistols. The MP7 was then brought to my attention, and I started reading about it. One short transaction later at Airsoft Extreme, and I walked out with and MP7 and six MAG midcaps. The gun is packaged with the usual for TM, containing a cleaning rod, the manuals, and some bb’s, along with the gun. The entire package is very professional looking.
Externals:
My example is slightly sub-par as far as externals go. Airsoft Extreme uses a soldering iron to get rid of the trademarks. This lets them get the replicas through customs more easily. Personally, I would rather purchase my replicas through a local dealer, since the customer service experience is almost always superior when you are face to face. Also, I am impatient.
I was initially worried that the fore-grip would be flimsy and sub-par, but it is rock solid, no give whatsoever. The retractable stock is also a design feat, being made of metal with a rubber pad. This deploys with a solid click, retracts with a solid clack, and has no wobble in between.
The iron sights are another plus. There are standard pistol sights when they are flipped down, and well constructed rifle-style sights when they are flipped up. These make it extremely easy to acquire targets when the stock is in its fully deployed position, which is most of the time in my experience.
The battery compartment is well hidden, but easily accessible. I was a little worried when I saw where it would be mounted, foreseeing some terrible wobble developing in just days. I was completely happy to find out the there is an incredibly robust closing mechanism, making sure that there will be no issues here in the future. It is a difficult to depress button, and when you slide the front end back on, you are greeted by a solid and audible closing procedure.
Metal:
Metal bits are present in the rails, the sights, the retractable stock, all the controls, and the flash hider/silencer extension. They are all TM’s standard metal, no visible pockmarks, but not the single best I have seen, either. They will stand up to use easily, but don’t expect them to match your real steal stuff.
Performance:
The next thing that I really wanted to find out was how well the gun would shoot completely stock. I loaded the included lowcap, filling it to the brim with all fifty rounds without and issue in their loading. Putting the magazine into the gun is a simple affair, and also is a nice and solid procedure. I quickly went ahead and fired some rounds on semi, and then switched to auto to burst a few more. The gun was firing low, of course, but consistently. A quick hop up adjustment fixed this issue, and the bb’s were flying straight and true in moments.
The hop up is the regular design seen from TM, and is completely solid and rigid. It can actually be difficult to modify the hop up since its so stiff, unless you take the time to really fiddle with it. It will under no circumstances shift, holding its position easily.
As far as accuracy goes, I can currently only offer my observations, though some accuracy charts will be edited into this review in a few hours. The gun fired from roughly sixty feet away can accurately hit a 4”x7” square with only a few flyers. Keep in mind, however, that this is an estimate made from a handheld position, and could very well be slightly better or slightly worse.
The only cons that I noticed while shooting it were ones involved exclusively with my MAG magazines. They would occasionally miss feed, and would need a nice smack on the base to reseat it inside the magazine well.
From other reviews and chronoing at the CQB game, the gun shoots a solid 245-250 stock. I do not see any issue with this, as it is plenty for CQB use. We are here to play airsoft, not to hurt people! The rate of fire is perfectly fine, clocking in slightly slower than a regular AEG.
Skirmish Use:
In my game at CQB City, I found the gun to be ideal. It was easily useable inside the buildings with the stock folded, and was transformed into a suitable longer range weapon with the stock deployed. I was the bane of many people inside the kill house, easily able to acquire a target and quickly engage. The midcaps have far more capacity than the pistols that are allowed in the kill house, so I was able to intimidate and move into rooms with ease, never having to worry about running low on ammunition.
Outside, the gun does have issues with range. I would put the effective range against a standard sized man around 100 feet, making it a CQB only weapon. This is fine for Fort Ord or CQB City, but I would ever use this gun as a primary anywhere with ranges much longer than that. Potential buyers need to understand that this is a CQB weapon or a sidearm, not a battle rifle. You will not be making ridiculous 200 foot shots with a SMG like this. As long as this little weapon is kept inside its own habitat, it will outperform a lot of guns on a usability scale, but remove it and it will fall flat on its face.
Conclusion:
In conclusion, I would suggest this gun wholeheartedly, as long as you will be using it as a CQB weapon, or as a backup. When under 100 feet, I would use this gun before most others due to its size and weight, but outside that don’t count on it to work as well. This tiny SMG makes a perfect CQB primary or snipers backup weapon. Just don’t expect to snipe with it.
I would give this gun a solid 85/100. It is an excellent skirmish piece, and nice to look at, but would really shine with some internal upgrades and some external polish. Keep in mind, if an average gun gets 50/100, then 85/100 is an excellent score! I would pick this gun in a second for CQB or secondary use.
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TM AK-74MN TM HiCapa 4.3 Xtreme TM Springfield 1911A1 TM MP7A1
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DanR.
Registered: December 2008
Posts: 15
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Review Date: 23/12/08
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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reliability, price
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accuracy, fps for a primary
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I can really vouch for the reliability of this. My friends and I have put over 30,000 round through it mostly cheap .12 grams. It still functions well, except for the battery which has all but died on me. So I really don't use it all that much anymore. This thing was really used and abused in all aspects received very little maintenence. Except for the occasional barrel cleaning and I once took it all the way apart and cleaned and lubed everything. Great gun I used as my primary for a long time. Also very good for close range. Highly recommended.
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