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The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla
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orca
The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla
Registered: September 2004
Location: Behind the Orange Kurtain, So. Kalifornia.
Posts: 1,263
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Review Date: 27/7/06
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £190.00
| Rating: 9
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Metal Receiver, Mechanical 3 round burst,
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I'm rather suprised on the popularity of the Type 89 outside of Japan. Already a few reviews out on this rifle. But hopefully here I can go over some facts that were missed on other reviews.
Purchased mine from Den Trinity in Hong Kong. No prob getting it to the U.S.
Obligatory Real Steel Info:
Type 89 rifle is a select-fire, gas-operated, rotating bolt firearm. The gas action and bolt group is somewhat similar to USA-designed AR-18 rifle, manufactured by HOWA under license from Armalite Co (USA). Type 89 rifle has receiver made from stamped steel, polymer furniture and flip-up aperture rear sights. It also has lightweight folding bipod. The type 89 was adopted bythe JGSDF in 1989 thus the name Type 89.
The airsoft version has a full metal reciever, outer barrel, bipod, front and rear sights. Also includes the version 8 Mechbox which has mechanical 3 round burst. You can actually feel trigger feedback form the gearbox. 1 downside is the bipod scratches up the outer barrel when used.
The rifle takes a stick type battery in the foregrip , but also has a storage compartment in the rear stock that can fit a spare stick battery. The stock is too short to accomodate a large battery. It would appear that there was enough room but you'd have to hollow out the stock too much and affect the overall rigidity of the rifle. The foregrip battery compartment is ony large enough for an 8.4 stick battery.
You may think that the metal body, type 8 mechbox and other features of the Type 89 are new for TM. The reality of it is, Tokyo Marui made/delivered these for the Japanese Army (JGSDF) back in 2003. The above picture shows the 01/04 issue of Toyguns Field Magazine reporting on this. Fortunately, we consumers are seeing close to the same version the JGSDF had delivered. Thus the metal body and other reinforced improvements which were specified by the J.G.S.D.F.
I tested a few different M16 style magazines to make sure they worked. The magazines tested are:
Tokyo Marui Standard Magazine
Tokyo Marui Hi-cap Magazine
G&P Illuminated Tracer Magazine (Illumination worked fine)
MAG 100 round Mid-cap Magazine
Start 30 round Low-cap Magazine
DTP Electric C-Mag
All magazines worked flawlessly. The fit is a little odd if your used to the M16/M14 style of magwells, but it's something to get used to.
The Type 89 will NOT take M7 or M9 bayonets. The bayonet lug is larger on the Type 89.
Pleasently suprised with the chrono results.
Tokyo Marui Type 89 Chrono Results (FPS)
.20 BB's
Min: 287.15
Max: 296.72
Avg: 291.36
UPDATE 08/18/2006
Accessories arrived!
Click to see more info on these specifc accessories. Scroll to bottom of page.
Both accessories are typical, TM high quality. Metal. Instructions were in both Japanese and English! Left Side Selector enable right handers to use thumb for selector now.
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Putting my money where my mouth is...
OMFG The A.I.C.S. is NOT an L96, AWP or AWM!!!
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genata
Registered: June 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 254
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Review Date: 31/1/07
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 9
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Metal reciever, Metal backbone running down the inside of the gun, three round burst, all metal gearbox (no nylon bushings), includes metal bipod, and good stock performence
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can feel a tad bit short for people who are about 6 feet 2 inches tall, no room for a 9.6v battery,
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Why the Tokyo Marui Type 89- Well for a long time I have wanted a gun that shared the G3 looks but was going to be a somewhat unique gun on the field. I did some research and came to the conclusion of these three great guns:
-Tokyo Marui G3 SG1
-Classic Army C33E
-Tokyo Marui Type 89
The first to get canceled off my list was the TM G3 SG1. I really like the fact that the TM G3 SG1 had an adjustable check rest, an adjustable bi-pod, and I have herd stories about how good the TM G3 SG1’s accuracy is. True the gun had a lot of pro’s going for it, including the famous Tokyo Marui quality and durability, but I was forced to cancel if off first. I decided against this gun mainly for the idea that is was a big gun, made mostly from plastic, and I thought that the TM type 89 and CA C33E would be better choices.
The second gun off my list was obviously the CA C33E, or otherwise I would not be doing a review on the TM Type 89. Some of you CA C33E fan’s out there may be wondering why I did not choose this gun. Don’t get me wrong it’s a great gun, but at my local field I noticed some small problems, nothing great but enough to make me wonder. Well one of my friends bought a CA C33E gun, and I decided to see what it’s all about. I was excited to finally see one up close and personal, and have the time to inspect it up close. When the weekend was over I noticed some small imperfections on the CA C33E that would not have be on a TM gun, so I went with the TM type 89.
First Impression of the TM Type 89- I ordered this gun from www.precisionairsoft.com (as I do with the majority of the airsoft equipment), and I received the gun by the second day. I opened the box and immediately feel in love with the gun. The gun comes with one standard magazine, one orange tip, one black tip, metal bi-pod, manual, and Tokyo Marui documentation.
The build quality on the gun is mostly metal, which is a first and hopefully not a last for TM. The type 89 has just as much metal as its competitors (CA C33E). The gun has no creeks, moans, or groans, just a very rock solid feel. The gun is not just metal outside, but it has a huge metal backbone running down the gun, which adds for an extremely strong feel. The gun is equipped with a one piece inner barrel, and an all metal gearbox.
Holding the gun I realized the gun felt just a tad short, then again I am 6ft 1in with long arms. What I mean by short is that when I am standing up with the gun, I find it a little hard to aim through the sights with my paintball mask on (easily fixed with a red dot scope). I do believe though that this gun can be comfortably used by someone who is 6ft 2 inch, to someone who is in the 5ft range. The clip holds 69 rounds according to most stores, but I was able to fit 72 bbs in one clip. Yes the TM Type 89 can take M4/M15/M16 type magazines’, but M4 type guns cannot take TM Type 89 magazines’.
Performance- When it comes to shooting this gun you can’t help but have a smile on your face. When I tested the guns accuracy it was a windy day, but once I setup the sights, and hop-up, I was able to hit a 2L bottle of Pepsi at 120 feet away (never tried shooting any further). The gun requires about one full standard magazine, to properly adjust the sights and hop-up. As far as power goes most stores say the gun shoots 300fps, but I would have to say it shoots 310fps (but until I get it chrono’d I will never know). When the gun shoots it has a nice silent moan about it, it’s hard to explain, but it sounds really nice.
Ahh the moment everyone has been waiting for, the three round burst. The three round burst can be summed up by one word “wow.” The three round burst works flawlessly, is very accurate, and is ideal for woodland battles. The full auto works well, but you do lose some accuracy when you switch to it. The semi auto is fantastic; it is very precise, and consistent. I have herd that with the semi auto you well get a bb every now and then that only goes 20 feet, but what I noticed with my gun is that every tenth round or so a bb will stray slightly off course.
Mounting of bipod/battery
The bipod- the bipod is all metal and clamps to the barrel. Now for those of you, who are like me, don’t freak out about the bipod scratching up your barrel. To help protect my barrel I took some electrical tape and put it on the area of the bipod that clamps onto the barrel (so far zero scratches). The bipod is none adjustable; it just flips up, down, and can be taken off. There is also a switch that locks the bipod, make sure the switch is turned so the bipod is not locked when mounting it.
The battery- The battery is an 8.4v AK stick type battery. The battery compartment is located in the fore-grip of the gun. There should be a pin that is close to the front sight, just pull the pin out to its second notch, and pull the fore grip forward. Once you have pulled the fore grip forward just separate the two pieces. The battery goes in easily, and fits perfectly. Even thought battery fits nicely, I still do not see how you can fit a 9.6v battery in there. Once the battery is in, just put the fore grips back together, and put the pin back in. Once all of this is done you are good to go.
Sights/Hop-up- As I said before I found the sights a little hard to aim through with my paintball mask on. It’s not that I can’t see through the sights, it’s the stock is a little short for me. The sights themselves are fine, and easy to adjust, but I prefer the M4/M16 type sights. Even though I am not super crazy about the sights, it really is all about user preference.
The hop-up is located behind the charging handle, so just pull it back and there is the hop-up. The hop-up itself is easy to adjust and seems to be typically Tokyo Marui quality (not as good as the TM M14’s hop-up).
Overall- Overall all I find this gun to be one of the best guns I have in my arsenal. The gun is ideal for woodland battles, since it has great range and accuracy, but does not get hung up on limbs as easy as the G3 series. The gun can also be used for urban environments. I found no problems moving this gun through doors, and other tight spots while clearing a room.
The gun has stock performance that can compete with Classic Army, but with a tad bit better accuracy. I do wish however the gun had a bigger battery compartment so that the gun could fit a 9.6v battery in there. The gun itself could be a tad bit bigger in my opinion so it would fit me better, but theses small cons cannot hold this gun back.
Upgrade potential- 7/10. The gun does not have many upgrades external upgrades out yet, except for the scope mount for it. It does lack rails, but there are many internal accessories for this gun. I also do not see how you can fit a 9.6v battery in the fore grip without redoing the wiring.
Build quality- 9/10. The gun is mostly metal outside, and it feels it. The gun has an all metal gearbox, with a huge metal back bone running down the gun. The quality of the parts Tokyo Marui uses are very high grade. I think Tokyo Marui did a lot of homework on this gun.
Value for the money- 9/10. The gun comes with an all metal gearbox, and a mostly metal external body. The gun also comes with a metal bi-pod. It’s not just these facts, but it’s the quality, and time that went into this gun.
Overall potential- 8/10. As the gun stands it is a great gun. It has great stock power, and great accuracy. If upgrading this gun did come up they do have internal parts, but you would have to re-wire the gun to fit the 9.6v battery (because I do not see how a 9.6v battery is going to fit). I do like the idea that the gun comes with a bipod, and in the stock is a compartment big enough to fit another 8.4v battery, so if you run out just take the battery out of the stock and put it in the fore grip. Due to some lack of upgrades I was forced to give the gun an 8/10, actually more like an 8.5/10.
By- genata
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mudmover
Registered: December 2008
Location: Lincs
Posts: 115
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Review Date: 5/12/10
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 10
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All
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Outstanding AEG, In two years of use never let me down. Without doubt my prefered weapon.
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Registered: September 2004
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