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Description:
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The Sig Sauer P226 railed frame is the latest GBB offering from TM.
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Tokyo Marui TM Sig Sauer P226
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shotgun_ned
Registered: July 2005
Location: Warwickshire UK
Posts: 7
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Review Date: 30/8/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £100.00
| Rating: 9
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Performance is second to none. Design features are top notch. Excellent build quality.
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Obvious TM trademarks on the righthand side of the gun. Seam lines on the underside of the gun and outer barrel. Poor quality plastic used for the outer barrel.
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The Tokyo Marui P226
Well here it is, my review of the TM P226 GBB pistol. You'll have to excuse any similarities to other reviews, as I have never written a review before I checked others to see how they were worded and laid out.
Some Real Steel History
The P226 appeared in 1983 in 9x19mm Luger (since 1998 offered also in .357Sig and .40SW). Speaking simply, the P226 is a high capacity reincarnation of the SigSauer P220. Key features of the P226 - dual-stack magazine for 15 9mm rounds and a firing pin safety. Designed to compete in the XM9 pistol trials that sought a successor to the Colt M 1911 that had served the US military for several decades. Both the SIG-Sauer P 226 and the eventual winner, the Beretta 92 passed each requirement during the trials, beating out offerings from Colt, Ruger, Heckler & Koch and Glock. The P 226 actually represented a lower cost per unit, but Beretta's cheaper accessory cost made the Beretta the winner in terms of overall cost.
Nevertheless, the P 226 found favor with the US Navy Sea Air Land (SEAL) unit, which adopted it as its official sidearm. Military and law enforcement agencies around the world also adopted the P 226 for duty use.
(Copied/stolen from world.guns.ru)
First Impressions
Well, I had been following the TM P226's progress for quite a while, as I have always liked the Sig, but no other company had released a decent GBB version of it. I ordered mine from Firesupport (www.firesupport.co.uk) for £100, which seems to be the cheapest in the UK. I placed the order on Tuesday night and it was here on thursday after a bit of a panic. Basically I overslept and missed the courier, but luckily I rang them up and the driver came back, so well done Interlink Express.
Anyway, whats in the box? You get the pistol and mag(obviously) as well as the usual TM bumpf, which consists of the manual, some targets, cleaning rod, catalogue and about 200 bb's (useless bit of info here, bb does not stand for ball bearing, but actually bullet ball. Its a common mistake). The outside of the box has a fancy picture of the gun and the Navy SEAL's insignia.
So, I cracked the box open and pulled out the gun. The first thing which occured to me was the build quality and weight. Its solid, with no rattles or creaking. Its also got a nice heft to it, which makes aiming and shooting a bit easier. The plastic is of good quality, and it has a dull black finish. One downside though, is that there are some seam lines on the underside and on the top of the outer barrel. They aren't very obvious though, so its not really a problem. Plus I'm hoping a company releases a full metal frame (not just the slide), in which case I'll buy one.
The trademarks on the gun have been engraved quite deeply (unlike my Glocks) and look rather nice. I'm not a fan of the TM marks on the right hand side of the gun, but every gun usually has them and I suppose they have to be there  .
Features
The main features which were advertised with this gun was the working decocker and hidden manual safety catch. The real Sig does not have a manual safety, but because TM is a member of the ASGK (Don't ask me what it stands for) all their guns have to have one. They cleverly incorporated it into the slide release catch. To operate it you just push it in from the righthand side, and push it out from the left to deactivate. The decocker drops the hammer down to a safer position. As it is a double action gun it can still be fired though if needed.
The hopup unit is also very well designed. There is a tiny wheel underneath which you turn to apply it. It has enough friction to stop it unwind which can happen in some guns (*cough* My M15A4). My only slight annoyance with it is you have to take the slide off to get at it.
The gun can be field stripped within a matter of seconds, which makes maintenance a lot easier. Getting it back together can be a little tricky though as the recoil spring is pretty strong, and to get the spring guide back in you have to compress and hold the spring without it flying off. The mag catch can also be swapped to the left hand side, just like the real steel. It doesn't matter to me, but its a nice touch for the lefties out there.
Performance
Right, perhapes the most important criteria for any gun.
First off, accuracy. Its damn good, better than my glocks. I can hit most things with it, allowing for the fact that bbs are very light and decidly un-aerodynamic. The range is also very impressive. It almost matches the range on my G36E, which when you consider its a full length rifle upgraded to 328 FPS, is amazing. The hopup unit really comes into play, keeping the bbs going straight and level for ages.
I have yet to have mine chrono'd, so I can't say exactly what its firing at, but I've read figures between 240 and 300 on 134a. I'm a bit skeptical about the higher figures, as I can't see a GBB doing that on standard 134a at room temperature. I'll be running it on Abbey Predator Ultra gas though, so it'll be higher than those.
The recoil is very sharp and fast. It uses the same system as the Desert Eagle Hardkick, but it isn't as heavy as the slide is lighter.
Conclusions
I am very pleased with this gun. Its one I'll be carrying at every skirmish. I don't think it'll be replacing the Glock 18's, but thats only because the full auto option on the glocks is needed at times  .
Pros
- Performance is second to none. Probably the best TM GBB performer yet.
- Design features are top notch. TM incorporating the real steel features also make it that bit more realistic.
- Build quality. This gun feels very nice your hand.
Cons
- TM trademarks on the righthand side of the gun. The KSC logo's on the glocks are much less obvious.
- The seam lines on the underside of the gun and outer barrel.
- The fairly poor quality plastic of the outer barrel.
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Shao14
Misopethamenos
Registered: September 2004
Posts: 306,044
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Review Date: 12/9/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £62.00
| Rating: 9
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Accurate, nice blowback action, reliable, functional decocker
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Cons:
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plasticky
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Well, the above review pretty much sums up all there is about this GBB. Let me just re-summarize the points I feel strongly about.
First, this GBB is accurate. I shoot this gun and my other GBBs (by KSC, KJW, and Maruzen) side by side under the same conditions and using the same grip style and stance, I get better grouping with this gun than others.
The hop up unit is good as always in TM guns, and the range of this pistol is outstanding in addition to the accuracy.
Slide blowback action is very nice even with 134a gas. Decocker works as it should.
Field strip is easy, and I've never had any trouble with recoil spring as mentioned in the above review.
Gas consumption is very good with 134a gas, I can get around 70-80 shots per charge. With green gas, it drops to around 40-50 shots per charge.
Now the bad part is it's made of plastic, and there are some visible seam lines that it shouldn't be on the real steel. However, the plastic used seems to be very tough, and I've been using mine with green gas for a few months now, and haven't seen any sign of wear. There are metal kits available for it, but they are for pure collectors, not for performers.
In conclusion, if you want a nice performer GBB, look no further.
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bgul
Registered: January 2005
Posts: 1
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Review Date: 25/11/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £98.00
| Rating: 7
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Heavy, realistic looking
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Cons:
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rattle after some use
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I bought this gun in the summer. After using it a few months now (ultragas) I notice some rattle.
Also the magazine has some movement in the well.
Apart from this, it's a very nice gun to have and to use.
TM could provide a BB-filler in the box, like KWC usually does.
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zeroonejunkie33
Registered: September 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 53
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Review Date: 27/12/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £100.00
| Rating: 9
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Impressive Looks
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Cons:
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Lock back
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Hi all. Not much to add to these reviews, except that I love my P226. It's my only airsoft product, so I don't have much to compare it to, but I really enjoy using it. One drawback is that, the slide does not always lock back after the last shot.
Great piece of kit though.
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c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5
To the Bat-Cave!
Registered: August 2006
Location: East Midlands, UK
Posts: 645
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Review Date: 23/9/06
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £99.00
| Rating: 9
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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AWESOME looks! Great first time pistol!
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Cons:
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Mag loading
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This is my first GBB and I am very impressed.
I would recomend it to any first time buyers. Only down-side is the magazine loading...its a bit of a buggar.
But overall, an awesome bit of kit.
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airzzy515
Registered: January 2007
Posts: 8
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Review Date: 21/2/07
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £95.00
| Rating: 8
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Solid Build, Decent Grouping, Crisp Blowback
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Cons:
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Seam Lines, TM trademarks, Sometimes doesn't lock back when empty on 134a
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This is my first review so go easy on me.
The box came this morning with some gas and a spare mag. I opened up the parcel to find a well presented box with a large picture of the p226 on it saying "Hi-Kick Hi-Grouping in bold letters. I opened up the box to find a nice looking gun and a magazine. There was also a cleaning rod and some .20g bbs under a peice of cardboard.
Features
The main appeal of the p226 is that it has no safety, just a decocker as per real steel. I'm sorry to tell you all this but this iis a lie! Due to Marui regulations all guns must come with a working safety. But as of yet, no one I know has managed to find the safety so frankly it's useless anyway! (Edit, the first reviewer knows how to operate it so look at thier review) It has another feature of double or single action wich is nice and has the new Marui blowback system, as well as thier great hop up, which unfortunatley requires the slide to be removed in order to adjust, but it comes set very well for .2's anyway, and doesn't unwind!!!!!!! (Joy of Joys)
First Impressions
I picked the gun and stuck the mag in to get the feel of it, which was nice and weighty for a plastic gun which was a nice suprise (having had some of the crap early TM GBB's). It had a nice finish but was let down by the seam lines on the bottom of the gun. It was easy to stip and put together which is a good thing (because I'm pretty stupid and usually find doing this a mission). The plastic on the outer barrel was a bit rubbish but I'm going to get a metal one instead.
Performance
So the best bit, I gassed the mag and loaded in some bbs (which was annoyingly slow). Stuck my target on a ledge 15ft away and let rip. The blowback was great for a stock gun and crisp which allowed for a decent amount of bbs per second (although not half as good as the Hi-Capa). The grouping was very good and the power wasn't too bad either (although I'm planning to get a new valve for a higher power). One nag wqas that I was using 134a so the slide didn't always lock back when empty (upgrade coming for that too ;-) ). The mag capacity was nice although it's fairly standard for guns these days.
After-Market Parts
I already have a metal frame and a new recoil sping on the way and there are plenty of more working parts available if needed like mag jaws and piston lids.
All in all I think this is a great pistol for any player and would make a great sidearm for your team.
(Sorry for sounding like a TM Salesman there)
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USRanger709
Registered: November 2005
Location: Richmond, KY
Posts: 49
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Review Date: 23/3/07
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £129.99
| Rating: 9
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Solid, Accurate, Fast ROF, Reliable
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Cons:
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Plastic, stiff double action
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Note: I do apologize, but my digital camera broke (thanks sony), so all of these pictures are from my camera phone. I will update the pics as soon as I get a new camera.
Tokyo Marui Sig P226 GBB
Gun
The Sig P226 was and for the most part still is the side arm of choice for the Navy SEALs and most law enforcement agencies. One of the guys in my Unit who also works at Shooter Supply told me that he only trust a Sig in combat, and that is the most reliable weapon he has ever owned, the most comfotable to fire, with the smoothest trigger pull, and light recoil. Then he went on to smash Barettas and how much they suck, period.
(Custom Gun Case I bought at Dicks Sportin Goods)
Upon Opening the box (which all of the trademarks have been cut out of), I noticed a beautiful replica of the famous Sig P226. Had it not been for the little dab of orange on the outer barrel, I would have thought it real. Once it was in my hands, i was amazed by the balance and the weight despite it being plastic. The plastic isnt too much of a problem for me as I would have thought, it is very solid, not a thing is loose or feels like it would break even if i droped it. The weapon is very comfortable to operate and fire.
As most peopel would know, TM does not have rights to most of the trademarks on their guns, but thank god mine came intact, covered up by some black tape to get pasted customs.
The trademarks are all exactly where they should be. The only thing that is extra is the Tokyo Marui trademark just below the slide on the righthand side.
The pistol also operates just as the real one should. The slide is crisp and smooth, unlike some of my previous GBBs. This weapon has no safety, the only operational mechanisms are the slide release, hammer release, and the trigger, of coarse. The gun, like its real steal variant, features both double and single action. The single action is smooth, and light, taking little resistance to fire. The double action acts as it should, but is no wear near as smooth as the real steal one is, the only potential flaw I have found with this weapon, but since it does its job, ill let it pass.
Like all TM guns, it features a hopup, which you must take the slide off to get to. Dismanteling the weapon is a sinch. On the lefthand side below the slide there is a switch, turn it down, and you can pull the slide right off. Just below the chamber is the hopup adjust, a simple little turn wheel.
The sights are nice painted day sights, but they do not glow in the dark, unfortunately.
The upgrades for this gun rivel that of the M4/M16 AEGs. Just go to Redwolf and do a search for P226 and you'll see for yourself. My future plans for this gun include:
- Metal Body Kit
- 150% recoil spring and hammer spring
- 6.03 or 6.01 tightbore barrel
- High Flow Valves
- Hogue Grips
- Illuminated Night Sights
Performance
Unfortunately I forgot to buy top gas when I ordered my pistof from Trinity Airsoft. So I decided to take a huge risk and fire 10 rounds off with propane. It scared me. The slide recycled so fast I could barely see it. But luckily, my Top Gas came in yesterdy, which I have propbaly already spent half the bottle.
The performance isnt as good as an AEG of coarse, but it really amazed me non the less. By far the most accurate GBB I have owned (KSC Metal Glock 18C and a KWA USP .45), and the fastest ROF. The power and speed is mostly due to the plastic slide. Since the slide is much lighter, more gas can be used to propel the bb rather than pushing back a heavy metal slide. Double Tapping is no problem with this puppy.
Thus far I have fired at two targets, one from 10 yards away and one from 20 yards away. It was pretty windy, and I ran out of room in my back yard, so I had to stop there for now.
At the 10 yard target I fired a total of 5 rounds, 2 in the black, 3 in the white
At the 20 yard target I fired a total of 15 rounds, 2 in the black, 9 in the white (two of camera)
Conclusion
This is by far the best GBB I have ever owned and tested. The only other airsoft pistol that can out perform this gun that I own is my TM MK23 NBB. Even as a stock gun, its performance is accurate, powerful, and fast. Putting rounds on a target is no problem. So, if your in the market for a good side arm/CQB backup, i hightly suggest the Tokyo Marui Sig P226, or any TM GBB, because I've seen their quality, and it never ceases to amaze me.
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"Don't worry about the world ending today, its already tomorrow in Australia" - Charles Schulz
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PenGun
Registered: October 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 549
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Review Date: 30/7/08
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £100.00
| Rating: 8
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Positive aspects of the product (pros):
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Good accuracy, blowback, gas efficiency
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Cons:
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Older trigger sucks, shiny plastic, some internals weak
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Lets not lose the heads now whilst reviewing the P226.
You can't really go wrong with a TM gun, but like most of their GBB range they really only offer good performance with merely acceptable finish.
They are not as realistic nor as detailed as KSC guns and certainly not as pretty as Western Arms.
"Shiny plastic" is a term that TM critics can use with some justification, although the TM 1911 seems to have escaped this...
Generally the latest TM GBBs make an excellent first-time GBB, being reliable, accurate and fairly tolerant of abuse.
Most also make very good "base guns" for projects as there are literally tonnes of accessories and metal kits to choose from (maufacturers must rub their hands with glee every time a TM gun is launched) at nearly all price ranges.
Metal kits, recoil and hammer springs etc. for the SIG all add up and by the time you have the gun you were looking for the cost has skyrocketed.
I have two P226's fitted with PGC kits: a nice Blackwater version (sue me!) with Altamont Blackwater wood grips and the older (mid-1990's) non-railed "German" P226 with older-style checkered grips.
The cost of the completed Blackwater gun was around 500USD (not including shipping).
The older P226 cost considerably more as I had replaced nearly all the breakable internal parts (valve knocker, piston head, floating valve etc.) and also bought proper SIG factory grips for it.
This gun is about 3 years old now and was probably one of the earliest P226 versions Marui produced. It has gone through Creation slides and frame, KM barrels, Nineball recoil spring guides and various other upgrades without much fuss.
The cast metal trigger parts have needed much modifying to keep working as they wore down quite badly. The newer P226's seem better in this regard.
Gas-efficiency on Marui guns is crucified by the metal slides and heavier recoil/hammer springs so try to get away with the lowest strength springs that still allow relaible functioning!
This is something that KSC guns seem much better able to deal with IME and they retain good efficiency when upgraded with metal slides, whereas the P226 seems to eat gas at an alarming rate
I can only imagine how bad the 1911 must be...that can barely empty its 15 round magazine in stock form!
You won't regret buying a TM P226 but if you start upgrading it to be both pretty AND powerful, expect your wallet to take a beating
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Registered: July 2005
Location: Warwickshire UK