Co2 Desert Eagle .50AE - ArniesAirsoft

Author

DarkLite

Yes, commander, my hat is large and my cloak is billowing.

Registered: January 2005
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 9,707

Review Date: 30/8/05

Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: �70.00 | Rating: 9

Positive aspects of the product (pros):	Powerful, High ammo cap, Full metal construction, massive recoil, Fun.
Cons:	Heavy, Expensive to run as Co2 Caps are pricey.

KWC Co2 Desert Eagle .50AE

Type: GBB
Ammunition: Bog standard 6mm
Power source: 12g Co2 Capsules, or any Co2 canister with the correct tubes and adaptors.
Capacity: 40 rounds (can also use a normal KWC DE mag with an external Co2 rig)
Power: 400fps
Cost: $155USD from Redwolf, $1050HKD from GunsNGuys

Warning! This gun is so fun that you may need Kleenex. Ready?

Righto.

This gun had been in my sights for quite a while, after I saw it for the low low price of $950HKD at S3 in Mong Kok. Immediately, I started saving up.

Unfortunately, when I got back to the shop with enough money, I found that it was so popular that all of them were sold, bar the display model. Bumsocks.

Nevertheless, the shopkeeper reassured me that the gun had never been used, just taken out of the box and placed on the rack. Huzzah!

First Impressions

It�s big.

Oh so very �Egad-is-that-holster-full-or-am-I-just-that-sexy� big.

Of course, it�s got a big magazine too, more so than a normal DE. It has to be to hold a co2 cap, but the plus side is that you now have 40rnds of pleasure.

The Entire barrel assembly is metal. The entire slide is metal.

All the worky bits are too: trigger, hammer magazines etc. the frame (grip) isn�t, but that�s probably for the best, or the gun would be well over the 2kg mark.

As it is, it is very heavy. Bout 1.4kg. This negates the recoil somewhat. I have no probs holding it steady, but then again I�m 6� 4� and weigh 100kg. Rar.

It�s a nice matt black. No newfangled shiney flashy stuff here mate. I do know there is a chrome version around, and also a two-tone, with a silver slide. However, black is more intimidating, colour of death and all. Silver is what? The colour of someone who can�t afford gold or platinum. Pfft.

Black am win. Silver am not-rich-but-trying-to-be. Pfft etc. Moving on:

Another point of interest is that the grips on the BLACK version are nice comfy rubberized houge-type grips. The grips on the Silver or two tone are normal DE ones. Okay I guess, but the rubbery grips are so luverly�

You also get a bloody mahoosive case with foam and 5 slots for co2 capsules as well as a little compartment with an allen key (disassembly and removing blowback mech) and a thingymabob (technical phrases) for unscrewing the plug on the bottom of the mag.

Oh, and a nice Chinese manual with very good photographs, not drawings. Well done KWC.

Firing:

Right, lets get it going eh?

1) Take out mag.
2) Use thingymabob to unscrew mag plug.
3) Place 12g Co2 bulb inside.
4) Reverse step two.
5) Make sure that it�s all the way in. There will be some hissing.
6) Load it up with 40 rounds using the handy loading rod supplied.
7) Place mag back in gun.
8) Place gun in hands.

You are now ready to orgas�erm, shoot�yes.

One thing about the DE is that it is single action only. Hence, to fire the hammer must be cocked. Pulling the trigger only releases the hammer, it does not cock it. This means one of two things:

1) After putting the mag in, you must cycle the action.
2) The gun will not fire unless the hammer is cocked. This means that if you dry fire, you must recock the hammer.

One thing I find with this gun, compared to a TM HK Desert Eagle.

Everything is much harder. The recoil spring is MUCH stronger. The Hammer spring is MUCH stronger, etc etc. This is because of the tremendous power of Co2, which requires everything, including springs, to be stronger.

The selector switch is ambidextrous, but is incredibly hard to work. One little known fact about this gun is that it has the ability to go full auto! Now before you all start hyperventilating in delight, the Full auto is useless unless you are fighting 4 people with AEGs in a shoebox. The recoil on this beast is fierce. The strongest I have ever felt on any GBB.

Although I can control it, the long barrel (6 inch) doesn�t help. In full auto I find the gun sways side to side, no matter how hard I try to keep it steady, since the recoil and High ROF are fighting it.

More on accuracy later.

The Selector has three positions, Safe, Semi and Auto. These are etched very small into the selector itself, in the following order: �S�, �1� and �40�. Full auto is all the way up, semi is half way and safe is all the way down. Don�t make my mistake:

My friend: Try it on semi first!
Me: *Flicks selector all the way up* Right.

KERBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP!

Me: Woah!

My friend: Argh my spleen (or arm)!

Yes. This thing ricochets bbs everywhere at close range.

Trigger Pull:

Trigger pull is decent, smooth and even. Not ultra-light, but short.

Recoil:

As I said before, is pretty fierce. The sound the slide makes as it returns�ooo�

Accuracy:

On semi, this brute is just as accurate as the TM HK DE. Follow up shots are harder obviously because of the recoil, but I could easily hit (and penetrate both sides of) a coke can at 10-15m. Torso shots are easy at 20m, and although the maximum range is somewhere around the 50m mark, there is no real accuracy. All accuracy tests done with 0.25g bbs.

In full auto it�s a whole different story. The slide, which is big and heavy, moves very fast, creating a lot of movement. Hence, the groupings are not very good. But still, if you�re REALLY in trouble, it�s good for maybe 10m ranges.

Reliability:

Pretty new, so cannot really say. However, I dropped the mag (it�s a lot heavier than you would think) onto concrete from waist height and it was fine. There is a large rubber/plastic mag bumper on the bottom which does a marvelous job of protecting it from the occasional drop or bump.

Unfortunately, since this gun runs on Co2 capsules, you need to lube it up quite a lot. It still works bone dry, but sometimes the hammer will jam (just pull it back again to fix it). Or, you could use those fancy 12g Co2 bulbs that come with silicone lube in them.

Remember kids: ONLY USE 100% SILICONE LUBE OR SPRAY IN AIRSOFT GUNS!

UPDATE: This thing seems to only like Tokyo Marui BBs, especially 0.25g. This is also a problem with the TM HK DE.

Hop up:

The hop up is located just above the breech, bit fiddly to adjust as it needs a tool like a toothpick or something. However, once set it is solid and does not move at all.

Take down:

Bit complicated, but essentially the same as any other field-strippable DE.

Custom works:

Erm�not much really, you could get a 10inch barrel for it, and there is a rail on top for scopes and or Reflex sights�

A holster does wonders too.

Conclusion:

Well�

Bang for the buck, this gun is great. Greater than great actually, more like the �Greater Gun that is Greater than Great�.

I was discussing with my friend, who has a 6inch Infinity with a metal slide and upgrades to get it going at 400fps.

All prices in HKD.

My DE:

DE - $950
Total - $950
Co2 � $0.1125 per shot

His Infinity:

Infinity 5 inch - $1,200
Metal slide - $700
Upgrades (springs etc) - $100
Total - $2,000

That�s a difference of $1050HKD.

So, in order for my gun to become more expensive than his, I would have to fire 9,333 bbs.

Me am win, methinks.

So why are you still here, reading this? Go and get one for yourself!

Oh, and one for your mum too, cos it�s nice to give your mum prezzies now and then.

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Runner

Registered: April 2006
Location: Concord, MA
Posts: 458

Review Date: 27/8/06

Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 8

Positive aspects of the product (pros):	Powerful, comes with NICE case, good manual, metal, lots of other great things...
Cons:	Don't use .2 bbs, innacurate. Full auto is pretty much useless unless you're playing in someone's closet...

Like Darklite said, this gun is very fun, but I find it a little extravegent for skirmishing. This is because first off, it uses C02. Darklite said this is bad mainly because of cost, bit Green Gas wouldd probably be a lot easier. To replace C02, you have to take out this little tool thingy about the size of a quarter (~2.5cm), unscrew this other little metal piece, keep these in your hand while fishing around for a c02 thing, if you could get the other one out without it getting stuck, and then screw the 2nd metal piece back in, before going about the semi-complicated process of putting the BBs in. <_<. Get a few mags or you'll have LOTS of problems reloading during skirmishes. It'd be a lot easier just to have a little can of green gas and fill a mag with that. The loading tool is a little cmplicated to, but it does make loading up a little faster even though it makes you pretty much immobile during skirmishes because it again requires you to take out a few little tools and continually use and switch the around.

What I posted seems way too negative because I love this gun, I just wanted to clarify on a few things. If you're jsus playing around and don't need speedy reloads, you'll love this gun. Even if you do need speedy reloads, you'll still love this gun.

It's a great gun (I rated it 8), and if you're not in the UK (shoots WAY over 328..., like 70 over) you'l love it too Smile

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Buy it, you won't regret it.

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[quote name='Snowbeat' date='May 11 2007, 09:17 AM']Says the man who probably dresses up as a soldier and plays toy guns with his friends.
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[quote name='Samm' date='May 11 2007, 09:39 AM']Exactly, so why does it need to be called a "mercenary loadout" :P

Why can't it be more like, "I don't care for this geardo bull, so I just wear what I want"?
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BANDIT76

Registered: October 2006
Posts: 22

Review Date: 17/11/06

Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 10

Positive aspects of the product (pros):	You can buy a green gas mag for it !!!
Cons:

Hi Guys!
Now you can buy a green gas mag for this Desert Eagle. Of course power will go down to around 350fps. But still better than many AEG ;-)

malcr001

Registered: April 2006
Posts: 59

Review Date: 10/8/07

Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: �135.00 | Rating: 9

Positive aspects of the product (pros):	Good power, quality, nice full auto feature
Cons:	Isnt reli full metal, not easy to remove bbs from magazine

For a couple of years now I have been searching and searching hoping that I would be able to buy this product within the U.K. At a number of times I requested airsoft retailers to purchase the product on my behalf from suppliers. However everyone denied for some reason even though I didn�t mind paying a deposit.
If you live in the EU you will notice the distribution levels of the cybergun desert eagle which also runs on co2 which is more available than the kwc desert eagle here. Anyone that wants to get a co2 desert eagle, do not get the cybergun version which has poorer quality and less power. Anyway more about this gun, I finally came to the result of me having to purchase the deagle from Hong Kong from redwolfairsoft.com. Every day I would check the tracking of the item, the tracking company was not very useful at all, they stopped tracking the parcel as soon as it arrived in the U.K (on the 3rd day). It took 10 days to reach me which was mainly because of customs checks.

Coming onto the guns performance, it is powerful (410fps). I also have the kwc uzi (450fps) and you can identify the similar power exerted on both of the guns. So far I have been trying to adjust the hop-up but because of its power it�s quite accurate anyway (I can shoot a can from the distance of 25 feet).

I noticed quite a handy feature where if you pull the slide back and its set to safety the gun will set to semi-auto. This is quite useful as it means no mechanisms will break.

One disappointing factor is the fact that it isn�t rely full metal, the term full metal should literally mean full metal. But the good thing is that the things that need to be metal are.

Overall the gun is good and in my opinion is way better than any other airsoft desert eagle I know.

One last note. The gun can be made skirmishable by either buying the gas version magazine which brings the fps down or by attaching a special valve which fits where the co2 capsule would be placed. Uncompany.com and redwolfairsoft.com have the related products.