Wire mesh goggles 10 & 20 mesh models - ArniesAirsoft

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mobaar

Registered: November 2005
Location: Urbana, IL
Posts: 329

Review Date: 15/6/07

Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 8

Positive aspects of the product (pros):	No fogging! (20), withstands every significant test, comfortable, breathable
Cons:	Not allowed at some fields, 10 mesh has critically failed in testing

I have always looked forward to getting some good mesh goggles to solve my fogging issue. I've used Turbofans and I can still fog it like the best of them. When examining options I found some goggles for sale by TDS here at Arnies and immediately went to my organization (http://www.kcairsoft.com) to look for a group buy. After registering interest and contacting TDS, we put together a group order of mixed goggles between the #10 and #20 models.

#10 and #20: First off, let me explain the difference. #10s have 10 wires per every inch, meaning something like 100 holes per square inch, whereas the #20s have 20 wires per inch, which are slightly thinner but spaced closer together. Visibility diminishes a bit as a result of higher mesh, but the holes are smaller and THIS IS IMPORTANT (keep reading).

After receiving these goggles, some in the organization decided to run them through a full barrage of tests. One of the members ran a pair of #10s through a 400fps point-blank test with the following result (if images work):

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b139/Albruit/failed%20goggles/100_0776.jpg

Further results from the tester:
Distance: 15'
Target: 10 hole/inch wire mesh logging goggles
Weapon: KJW M700
Ammo: .2g 6mm Omega BB
Velocity: 400-410 FPS

Result: Failure of both lenses to safely pevent penetration in worst case senario.

Basically, a critical failure in a worst case scenario. Add to that the fact that some fields allow snipers, etc. to run with hotter guns brings reason to panic. The issue is that the BBs are displacing the wires if hit correctly and as a result are snapping perhaps one single wire and entering the goggles. This did not occur in 100% of the cases, but it did happen on a couple of the lenses, so I do not recommend the #10s.

We ran the same tests on #20s and found that the goggles would dent, even on VERY hot guns in the worst of scenarios.

One of our administrators at KCAA put it this way:

(Person with high FPS gun), (Moderator) and (Administrator) have all tested the 20/inch goggles without failure. Looks to me like we are looking at mostly deformation opening a gap. Clearly use of the 10/mesh goggles is out of the question next question is how do the 20/ mesh hold up.

My data says they are ok, prelim data from (hot gun guy) (hottest gun on field) seems to agree.

Option #1 no goggles of less than 20/inch mesk

Option #2 No goggles of interlaced wire design. Solid perforated types ok since they are not prone to spread.

Option #3 Only interlaced goggles that have been destructive tested to safely withstand a .20 gram bb at 550fps allowed (test goggles must be thrown out but second set of same goggles will be allowed.
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Overall, if you get the 20 mesh goggles, and recognize that with any denting, you definitely want to either reset the mesh or replace the goggles, you are good to go. Just avoid the #10 goggles.

Fragmentation is also not an issue. We have had BBs become damaged at high FPS but, as chipping goggles, they are rated against small fragment ballistics. Again, the 20 mesh would prevent this even better.

If your organization allows the use of mesh goggles, BUGZ are a good and inexpensive way to go. You should be able to get them still off of TDS, and he is a reputable seller who knows his stuff.

toni_23

Registered: November 2007
Location: northamptonshire
Posts: 7

Review Date: 4/11/07

Would you recommend the product? No | Price you paid?: �12.00 | Rating: 5

Positive aspects of the product (pros):	it cannot steam up in warm conditions
Cons:	the mesh is far to week!

i gave it a 5 out of 10 because its fine for anything other than cqb were no airsoft guns venture above 350 fps,
but...
I had a pair and was going to take them to a woodland game site, fortunately i checked them for safety first by firing my L96 at the center of both lenses, at an accurately measured 20 meters witch is most often the minimum engagement distance for most sites for people with sniper rifles, my L96 does a tested 440fps and at this 20 meters the .25g bb had no trouble penetrating the mesh and pushing the serrated messy edges towards were my eye would have been!
they've now taken up permanent residence on some landfill some were.