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slick22
Registered: August 2005
Posts: 91
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Review Date: 31/8/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
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| Rating: 9
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(First photo above is taken from HKpro.com)
Review Of Tokyo Marui MP5K-PDW
Context:
Hi there, this is my review of Tokyo Marui MP5K-PDW from the perspective of using it in a kill house rather then in a bush game where it tends to receive a lot of criticism. All too often I read reviews of the ‘K’ where the author is slagging it off for not being high powered enough or having a long enough barrel, battery too small etc etc. To me that is absolute BS and because this is a no BS assessment I write this review having owned the ‘K’ for 12 months and used it as it was intended, CQB that is!
Background:
I have always been fascinated by the MP5 series and have been trying for several years to purchase the real steel here in NZ. OK I’ll be honest that the MP5K isn’t the most beautiful gun in the world on first glance. However the more familiar you become with it the more attractive it becomes. I fell in love with the ‘K’ when I first saw a stockless version at the tender age of 14, it had a whopping 30rnd mag hanging off it. In my opinion the ‘K’ should only ever be seen with a 30rnder. Although they are sold from H&K as well as Tokyo Marui with a 15 round (length) mag, these were only really designed for bodyguard use where the ‘K’ is tucked under the users arm using a specially designed shoulder rig that also stows two 30rnd (length) mags. Anyway I’m getting ahead of myself. So I’m standing in the middle of the world renowned Airsoft Alley in Hong Kong at 10am waiting for the shops to open, I couldn’t believe how many Airsoft shops they have packed into that little street! To cut a long story short me and my brother walk out of the Modern Model Company 2 hours later with an MP5SD, MP5K, IMI Uzi, 3x KSC M11s, 3x TM Dessert Eagles, a Ruger KP85, 3 Fuzzy logic chargers, 40,000rnds and enough mags to sink a battle ship! What an experience!
The AEG
Open the box to reveal all the usual crap that comes with TM AEGs. Remove the ‘K’ and it feels quite robust. Most parts are plastic (no surprise) but it feels good, a slight squeak in the forgrip, but oozing of quality. The cocking handle locks back with no battery in, the stock folds out, the mags lock in to the magwell with no problem. Overall very impressive for a toy. Charge the little stick battery, remove the forgrip and stock (piss easy and not as fiddly as half the reviews I’ve read make it sound) connect the battery, shuv a mag in, turn the safety to the auto position and squeeze… the result is a line of pallets flinging around your hotel room. Very impressive!
Showtime!
Ok so this is a CQB context so I’m standing at a roller door about to go into the Kill House, being on the entry team we have a riot shield with four guys (all in black) trailing behind it like a snake. I have a 220rnder in and the stock extended. Weapons go hot (the safety is a little bit of a pain in the arse as when set to full auto it kind of digs into your thumb) #4 opens the door and the snake moves into the first room. The ‘K’ is at this stage being compared to the other entry team weapons: #1 has a TM GBB Tactical Master (also holding the entry team shield), #2 is yours truly, #3 has a TM Benalli M3 Super 90 (full length), #4 is packing a MP5 SD. Shorter is definitely better than longer in CQB scenarios and today is no exception. The team moves through each room, #4 is complaining that his ‘SD’ is too long in comparison to my ‘K’, he does however have the advantage of firing with a silencer which makes a difference in a kill house. The ‘K’ can easily be manuvered around corners etc especially in confined places where the team gets bunched up. She fires well, 220 rnds is ample in CQB scenarios and one hicap should last a couple of rounds. Changing mags in the heat of combat is no problem and anyone who says it is, is lame and shouldn’t be using an AEG anyway.
The enemy really like it, they say it stings and they tend to be hit at least 3 times before they get a chance to yell hit. Now I’ve read online that guys say they need to be juiced up, better springs etc, believe me when I say that there is no need to do this in CQB scenarios for which this gun was designed, I have personally shot players at as close as point blank and as far as 30 metres (now remember that 30 meters is like a school hall or sommin like that in CQB) and seen the nice bee sting that this AEG leaves, which at point blank range usually has blood starting to surface from it. I would not personally play CQB scenarios with any person who is using a modified gun (I did once and got shot point blank in the gasmask, which shattered and threw broken glass into my eyes). The only reason why anyone would want to beef the ‘K’ up is to use it in bush games where the gun’s barrel length makes it entirely useless. If this is what you are considering doing, I would recommend that you invest the money in a ‘full length AEG’ rather than waste your efforts on getting a gun that is designed for CQB to do otherwise.
The Pros
It’s short, yet has a decent size frame with stock extended
The stock can be folded away or removed if the user requires the ultimate in compact firepower
Loads and loads of parts etc
TM AEG speak for themselves when it comes to build quality
Mags are cheap
A very reliable gun, I have only had 2 jams caused by using shiz ammo and that’s after 7 months and 16,000 rnds through her.
The Cons
Needs a metal body to make it even more close to the real deal (anyone who says that AEGs are too heavy with these conversions needs stop winging or go join the girl guides!)
Cocking handle will break off if you’re not careful; you need it to remove the battery
Safety needs to be replaced with the G36 kind so that it don’t dig into your thumb
Battery power is limited (1000+ rnds) so buy a spare
What Else?
Get a sling for it, I have one of those 3 point ones and it really works well, especially for mag changes or drawing your sidearm etc
The shoulder rig referred to earlier is good too. Great for those protect the VIP missions.
Get a bunch of those disposable Star mags, they’re cheap and nasty but if you loose em or someone stands on em and cracks em they’re cheap to replace
Forget mini launchers, scopes etc. For starters the mini launcher is unrealistic, and in CQB you don’t have time to aim (you point & squeeze or squeeze & point which ever the case may be) this also goes for lasers which have the disadvantage of giving your position up as well. The only exception to this is a flashlight (if you cant afford NOD) which in pitch black conditions is a must as although they give your position away, you can’t hit what you cant see.
A silencer is also advised, I would also get an adaptor that screws strait into the front of the ‘k’ so that the silencer has that integrated look, check Redwolf for one of these.
I would also recommend a second butt plate so that you can easily swap between a stock and no stock without the need to bust out the screw driver every time. Redwolf don’t stock them but they are available, make sure you get the kind with the sling mount on the back as when you remove the stock from the ‘PDW’ you loose the rear sling mount.
Summary
All in all the TM MP5K-PDW is a purpose built weapon and more than capable of doing its purpose. I have personally used at least a dozen CQB specific weapons ranging from pistols to machine pistols to shottys. In my opinion the ‘K’ has the perfect balance between firepower, manoeuvrability and reliability and I wouldn’t hesitate in recommending it to both new and experienced Airsoft technicians.
My rating’s (in a CQB context)
Base AEG 9/10
Spec’d Up 10/10
(With 3 point sling, Metal Body, G36 Safety & Flashlight)
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CardiacArrest
Registered: February 2005
Posts: 6
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Review Date: 26/9/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: Not Indicated
| Rating: 9
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Very strong, relatively accurate, relative high capacity, great form
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Small battery, lowish stock velocity, fire selector can occasionally get in the way
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First let me say I do not own this AEG but I have used my friend Matt's extensively, and of course watch it be used a fair deal to. I've certainly been on the recieving end of this weapon quite a bit.
He recieved the weapon from uncompany.com, a recommendable overseas retailer. It comes with a small battery and a 15-round mag. As earlier mentioned, a 30-round would probably be more practical.
Removing from the weapon from the box I could clearly feel it was one very solid piece. This strength is due mostly to its small size, it isnt much larger than its metal gearbox and in fact except for its warm plastic feel, it seems just as solid as metal. I own my own metal MP5SD5, and even I am impressed by its strength. Not a wobble at anywhere. The fold-out stock is strong enough that you won't have to worry about breaking the joint.
Frankly as someone who so prefers metal this was one shockingly solid plastic weapon. I've held the TM FAMAS, G36C, M16s, AK47s, and M4s, and this is by far the most solid plastic gun I've held. I was and still am compelled to buy one. You won't be dissapointed by the feel of this gun. Every time I pick it up I'm surprised how heavy and thick it feels.
Or anything else, probably. Minus the small battery, perhaps. The body detail matches or bests that of CA and ICS MP5s, with the false weld marks looking very real. The foregrip is comfortable, and the folding stock folds easily and holds. You will find that the stock tends to bump against your hand (especially if they're big) if you're holding the foregrip with the stock closed. The sights are standard MP5 sights (good). The flashhider is also a nice metal addition. The battery is probably my only visual gripe, since you can see it in the cocking tube. I'd wrap it in some black electrical tape first.
Loading the battery in is a remarkably simple matter, just pull a pin to remove the foregrip and you can slide the battery in and connect the wires. Its also easy to charge the battery while it's still in the gun. Of course, it is a small battery, so you will want to get a second if you plan on using it all day.
And chances are you will. Its an excellent performer in a strong, relatively light, and compact form. In its intended role, CQB, it is definetely one of the best weapons out there, if not the best. Its high capacity (especially if you go with mid- or hi-cap magazines) will likely keep your enemies from going rambo on you. When combined with its compactness it makes it one of the few guns in CQB that is compact enough to carry as the first man through the door but is still a usable support weapon (a 200 round mag pushes any real gun into the machine gun category). Furthermore it provides your team leader with a lot more flexibility as far as the arrangement of your team, and making it very valuable. Also, if you choose to use it with the stock folded in, you should know that it is definetely possible to fire this gun with one hand; just don't plan on being very accurate, or being to hold it up very long, since its quite heavy.
Its also a remarkably accurate weapon. While it doesnt quite have the speed for longer range shooting, it is likely accurate enough. Its accuracy is probably due to its very well-secured barrel, which while being only a little longer than most GBBs, holds steady and has a good adjustable hopup. I would say its accuracy is only slightly worse than my standard-length MP5. Accuracy in a CQB weapon might seem like a moot point but...its just not. It allows you to put a lot more pressure on the enemy, since you can pick out toes and shoulders sticking out, even tag an enemy through the slats of a cargo pallet.
And if you are caught outside, you won't be screwed. At distances easily pushing 100', this weapon is still a major threat, it could easily hit a man size target. It means that you could still pin someone with a large rifle at a distance, something not generally possible with a GBB. At longer distances its lack of velocity means you will have to do some serious lobbing, and the enemy will have a lot of time to dodge BBs if they do see/hear them coming. In fact, my friend Matt routinely uses this weapon in woodland play (with regular success). Its small size makes it easy for you to hide, and allows you to run faster when you're rushing up behind people.
For its size, its one of the most accurate guns out there (I think), has a much higher capacity than most, and is one of the strongest. Combine this with TM reliability and it may be one of the best guns I've held to date. It dominates CQB, and is a usable medium-distance weapon. It also looks fantastic.
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A couple notes- it with a distinctive "pop" sound. You won't hear it from behind the gun, but its there. If you play regularly with any group, they'll probably come to recognize the sound of the -PDW.
The fire selector can also occasionally get in the way (particularly when its on full auto) and poke your thumb depending upon how you hold the weapon.
General lack of rails makes optics harder /more expensive to attach. You probably wont want or need them.
A dual mag-clamp will have to have the mags pointing opposite directions if you want to use it with the stock folded.
Silencers are a great addition for woodland play.
Also, in case you didn't know, the -PDW has a longer barrel than the MP5k.
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M3 Mad
Registered: July 2006
Location: Norfolk,England
Posts: 223
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Review Date: 19/1/07
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £149.99
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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Small size, great for CQB, nice rate of fire.
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Cons:
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A little tricky to get the battery in.
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Well need I say more I think everyone has covered all of the aspects of the MP5K PDW except from one thing you do NOT only have to pull out a pin in the foregrip to get the battery in you have to take the flash hider off, take the actual stock off then take the fore grip off and when I first did this it took me the best part of 20 minutes to do it. All in all though it is a very nice gun with a great ROF, very good accuracy for something of its size and the folding stock is a good idea.
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mi-go-a-go-go
Registered: November 2006
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 41
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Review Date: 9/2/07
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £150.00
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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size reliability
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Cons:
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fiddly battery fitting otherwise none of note
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Mines ace
no problem and when you consider how small it is, you realise what an excellent buy it is.
However getting a Galxey chinese version soon
so it will be intresting to compare
Cheers
Richard------------------------------ I Only Need one Bullet.Crash bang eeek Ammmo ammmooo give me more ammooooo arrrrrgh
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