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Classic Army M15A4 Carbine
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Shao14
Misopethamenos
Registered: September 2004
Posts: 306044
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Review Date: 30/8/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £175.00
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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Come with metal receiver, 1j power and reinforced internals out of box, excellent ROF, solid built.
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Weak hop up.
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Introduction:
Classic Army makes a huge range of Armalite AEGs with legally licensed trademarks, and most of them differ only externally (such as the A2 has non-removable carry handle while the A4 has removable carry handle) and barrel length, so performance-wise, they are all very similar. Of course, the full length rifle will have slightly longer range than the carbine due to the longer barrel length. There is one other difference, however, the M15A4CQB, SPC and RIS use 7mm ball bearings in the gearbox while the other Armalites use 6mm metal bushings. With appropriate upgrades, the ones with ball bearings can produce slightly higher rate of fire (ROF), but otherwise, there is no practical difference between the internals of different models.
This review is for the CA M15A4 Carbine, and will be very similar to Arnie's review of the M15A4 Tactical Carbine. The difference is that the Carbine has a retractable stock with 4 different positions while the Tactical Carbine has a full stock, and consequently, the Carbine stores the battery in the foregrip instead of the stock.
Note: there were early versions of CA M4/M16 replicas, and those were of poor quality and long out of production. Please don't confuse the CA M15 line of product with its older productions. The distinguishing feature is that the older productions did not have the Armalite logo.
Cosmetics:
The M15A4 Carbine has a solid one piece metal outer barrel that eliminates any barrel wobble completely. The receiver is metal , and has a nice matte black finish with white laser engraved Armalite logo and trademarks. It also has individual serial numbers. Mine is 013968. It does have the text "Classic Army" in small font written on the right side of the receiver also. The A4 has removable carry handle, which is also metal, and mounts securely on top of the receiver.
The magazine is also metal, but the color is a shade of grey, and it holds about 300 BBs. It is actually slightly shorter than a real 30 round Armalite magazine, but unless you compare the two side by side, it's hard to notice the difference.
The foregrip, pistol grip, and the stock are nylon & glass fiber reinforced plastic (the shaft of the stock is metal) with black finish. They felt very nice, and don't slip in hand. The pistol grip is slightly wider than that on the real steel, but again, one has to be very familiar to the real steel to notice the difference.
The front sling loop is on the left side, and it's very convenient for using 3-point slings.
Moving parts:
One can pull the charging handle and press the bolt catch, but neither of them contribute anything to the functionality of the gun. The bolt catch is a bit loose, but since it's a small part, it doesn't really annoy me, or you can glue it to the receiver if it bothers you. Unlike TM or ICS M16/M4 replicas, the spring loaded dust cover over the ejection port is held close by a small magnet, and can be flipped open easily by hand to reveal the hop up adjustment dial. The ejection port cover is silver; it covers the back portion of the ejection port that does not house the hop up adjustment dial, and does not close as on TM or ICS replicas, so if the dust cover is open, the hop up dial is always exposed. The hop up unit is metal.
The safety/firing mode switch is clearly labeled, and clicks into each position nicely. The magazine also clicks into the mag well nicely and securely. The mag release button is on the right side of the receiver, and can be easily reached by the right index finger if you are shooting right handed. It can not be switched to the left side, but left handed shooters can use their right thumb to hit the mag release button when taking out the mag. I have used several CA hi caps and G&P mid caps, and they all fit in the mag well without problems. New mags might be a bit tight in the beginning, but after some use, they will all fall freely when the mag release button is pushed.
The front sight can be adjusted for elevation, and the rear sight can be adjusted for both elevation and windage. when adjusting the rear sight for elevation, it becomes a bit loose, and so I leave it at the default position, which works just right (for airsoft purposes of course). There are also two sizes of the peep hole on the rear sight, and can be flipped from one to the other easily.
The foregrip is held together by the delta ring, which is quite tight. There is no worry that the foregrip might fall apart when in use.
The stock is the old style retractable stock, and has 4 different positions. It does not have sling loops, but it does have a slot under the shaft for mounting slings. With the stock full retracted, the M15 is not much longer than an MP5A4. The retractable stock is especially convenient if you don't have the deal height or arm length for a full stock rifle.
Functions:
The foregrip takes 9.6v mini battery easily. In fact, I use a nun-chuck or v-shaped 9.6v battery, and there's still room in the foregrip, and the battery slides back and forth slightly. The gearbox is supposedly to be reinforced with metal bushing, and uses a high torque motor according to CA's website. It also shoots around 1j out of the box. It penetrates both sides of a normal US Coco Cola can with no difficulty at close range. The rate of fire is also excellent out of the box. The hop up, however is less impressive. I have to turn the hop up almost all the way up to see the effect. When I shoot the gun without turning up the hop up, a BB tends to roll out of the barrel once in a while. The accuracy also has room for improvements. My ICS MP5A4 shoots better than my CA M15A4 Carbine.
Durability:
Have I mentioned that this gun is solid? I'll say again, this gun is solid, rock solid! It's built to last (unless you happen to run into a defective item from the beginning). I have had this gun for almost a year now, and I have long lost track of how many BB's been through it. It's been dropped and banged around, but it is still going strong. I haven't had the need to open up the receiver yet, but I plan on installing a tightbore barrel and a new hop up bucking to improve the accuracy in the near future.
Upgradability:
Externally, Armalite is one of the most "raped" guns. One can mount all kinds of optics on either the receiver rail or the carry handle. If one gets a foregrip rail, or RIS, there's countless things you can screw on it; only sky's the limit. Internally, it is well known that the CA stock gears hold up well to power or speed upgrade, but since it's already shooting at the forum limit, I won't go into that, and I don't feel the need for more power.
Conclusion:
In conclusion, the CA M15A4 Carbine is an excellent AEG. It might have been superseded by the new M15A4 CQB now, but if one likes a plain old M4 replica without the RIS rails or crane stock, this is the gun to get. |
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Yith
Registered: September 2004
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 161
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Review Date: 6/9/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £230.00
| Rating: 6
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Full Metal, good rate of fire and reliable.
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Hop-up poor, weak gearbox casing.
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Well I've been using my M15A4 Carbine for over a year now and during that time its been my main gun most of the time.
The metal body is a great advantage and the whole gun is as solid as a rock.
However I have had a few problems with it.
The most common problems associated with it are around the hop unit. This has a terrible habit of unwinding when firing and also the spacer inside gets squashed out of shape over time, reducing the hop-up effect considerably. This is a problem I've heard reported from most M15A4 owners and is generally solved by replacing the hop unit with a Systema one. However this only really solves the unwind problem and its still best to replace the hop-up spacer with a piece of Bic biro refill.
The other main problem I've had is cracks in the gearbox casing. The cracks appear at the front of the casing near the piston head and cause loss of air pressure and reduction of fps (mine has dropped by about 25fps). This has now happened twice with CA Gearbox casings in this gun, so if it happens in your gun I'd recommend trying a different manufacturer for a replacement case. However don't try a Marui one as the CA electrics won't fit the Marui case.
The only other problem I'd add is that the paint on the receiver has chipped very easily... After only a few skirmishes mine was covered with patches of bare shiny metal. You may like the weathered look so this may be an advantage for you, but for me it would have been nice to be able to keep it a bit more pristine.
Having said all that the gun has never failed me yet and has continually held its own in firefights, with a great rate of fire and decent power.
My gun is upgraded with Metal Spring Guide, 1 Joule Spring, Systema Hop-Up unit and a TN Barrel. It does about 325fps with cracked gearbox, 350fps otherwise. Runs on a 9.6V 1700mAH NiCad battery. |
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ISAF-RaptorKing
Registered: September 2005
Location: Colorado Spring Colorado, USA
Posts: 6
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Review Date: 6/9/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: Not Indicated
| Rating: 10
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strong, durable, acurate, fast ROF
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none
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Back in Febuary of 2005 I ordered a Classic Army M-15 A4 SPC (Special Purpose Carbine). I have Used it for over 20 game, skimishes and tourniments. I have put over 30,000 bb's through the gun; It has been stepped on, dropped, and numerously rammed into rocks, and after all this the gun has no scratches (exept flash-hider),dents, or other imperfections, It still fires at the insane ROF everyone is used to in a Classic Army, and still fires as acurate as ever.
When I opened the reciever to look at the gearbox I noted that the internals looked brand new still, with no gear wear, warping, shavings, or cracks.
Also my hop-up has never had any problems, it doesn't unwind, or wear out, or any thing, and in my opion it is better than a Tokio Marui Hop-up.
Now taken for granted my gun's id number is in the 17,000's but it shows that Classic army has fixed the Hop-up flaws.
A thing i have noticed on Classic Army gun's is that when people uprade them they get ruined(no duh) anyways they do get destroyed faster than a Tokio Marui when upgraded. My answer to this is if you need a better gun than a stock Classic Army, buy your gun from a different manufacter.
I give my overall rating of 10 because this is a sepirior gun to all other guns i have ever used, and I have never found a flaw with it.------------------------------ Front Range Airsoft Forum Team ISAF 1SG S. Brothers screen name: RaptorKing http://frontrange.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgiExecpt for ending slavery, fascism, nazism and communism war has never solved anything communism has only killed 100million people. Let's give it a second chance American Soldiers, the TRUE Freedom Fighters
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Sparrow
Registered: June 2005
Posts: 3
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Review Date: 7/9/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: Not Indicated
| Rating: 10
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Pros:
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Metal everything, included hicap magazine, liscensed trademarks
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None
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I have been using an M15A4 carbine for about six months now, and I must say I am very pleased. Compared to the TM M733 and TM Mp5A5 the M15 is in a whole new league. It just feels so incredibly solid. There are no creaks or wobbling parts. Compared to a real steel full auto M4a1 I have only praise for this gun. THe handguard's on CA's product felt to me better that the real ones. This gun just feels like a tank.
In all the games I've played in with my M15 as my primary it has performed wonderfully (I wish I could say the same for the operator  . The only modification to mine is a red dot sight. After each playing a game with my M15 my brother and one of my friends bought M15s of their own. This is one gun that sells itself if you just hold it.
If you enjoy upgrading your guns the M15 presents no challenges. The mechbox is identical to the TM counterpart, so all mods for that platform should work here. I can't say for sure as I don't have the time or funds to test out all the options. I highly reccomend a Systema M110/M120 spring for a quick boost of velocity.
All in all, go buy one now.
If you want one of these but have your doubts, don't worry. If not grossly abbused it won't give you any problems.
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Chrissyg
Air Cav!
Registered: March 2005
Location: Ultimate Wargames.
Posts: 4162
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Review Date: 26/10/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £219.99
| Rating: 10
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Pros:
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High ROF, Solid build, full metal, hop up sorted out, lovely finish, compact, trademarks, individual serial number, hi cap included
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pistol grip isnt the comfiest out there.
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Well after coming back from my week in France to discover that airsoft armoury had in stock the CA M15 A4 Tactical Carbine, I immediately ordered one...
Yesterday at 15.30 the doorbell rang, and I was greeted to a large box (the same size as my G3 SG1 box)to my surprise. I took the parcel inside and savagely tore off the plastic "bag" around it. And among the other things I had ordered there she was. I lifted the lid, and removed the catalogues (very nice) and there she was.
I picked her up, the weight is very evenly balanced, and the rifle feels as solid as a rock. First thing to do was pull back the charging handle. I was a little disappointed, after reading some reviews saying WOW it sounds great, I wasnt all that chuffed.
The magazine is a light grey metal, quite light, and has a nice feel to it. Have fired about..1000 rounds through it and no misfires (yet).
The pistol grip, this is my only real complaint. It seems to rub quite painfully against the top of my middle finger, ill be sorting this out by buying a sniper grip or something similar. It just gets annoying.
Finish and trademarks. Well what can I say but WOW, the metal is lovely to touch, the trademarks are perfect. I know the serial number doesnt matter, but it means something to me! Mine is 053630.
Where the selector switch is, I expect in the long run there may be some wear and the writing may come off, but for now its all good! It makes a very nice click as you turn it and lock it into safe, semi or auto.
The carry handle is one of the selling points for me, making it easy to strap on RDSs or scopes if I ever want to. Simple to detatach and reatatch.
Hop up problems seem to be all fixed now, I have mine set at around half way and it flies right to the end of my garden so im a happy bunny.
The shooting was a delight, the ROF was insane even on an 8.4v 2400mah battery. I cant wait until I order a 9.6v! It made a huge hole in both sides of a coke can, when held close by so im guessing fps to be around 315.
Overall 10/10, no doubt! Best £220 I ever spent!
Here are some pics:
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I thoroughly reccomend this to ANYONE, it converted me and it WILL convert you to an armalite fan!------------------------------ †RIP Kenny† - You will be greatly misssed by the UW community, but always in our hearts.
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Ryu
Registered: November 2005
Location: Buzzards Bay, Ma
Posts: 330
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Review Date: 2/12/05
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £355.00
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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Full Metal, Classic Army Gun, + 55,000 = Improved Hop Up, to many upgrades to count.
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Cons:
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To good to be true(not really negative)
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Classic Army M15A4 Airsoft Replica Rifle
 - Classic Army M15A4
 - Colt M4A1
REAL STEEL VERSION HISTORY - The Colt company developed various carbine versions of the basic AR-15 / M16 rifle since 1970s. These carbines were intended for all markets - military, law enforcement, civilian. US Military (and some other armies, most notably - Israeli Self-Defense Forces) had adopted the Colt CAR-15 Commando and XM-177 carbines during the 1970s and 1980s. But early in 1990s the old idea of replacing the pistols in the hands of the troops with some more effective, shoulder fired weapon, rise again in the heads of the US Military. In fact, this idea can be dated back to the US M1 Carbine of 1941, but good ideas never die. So, in the 1994, US Army adopted the Colt Model 720 selective-fire carbine (basically, a shortened M16A2 rifle), as the US M4 Carbine. This weapon was intended to replace in service some M9 pistols, as well as some aged M3A1 submachine guns and some M16A2 rifles. New weapon was much more handy and comfortable to carry, than the long M16A2 rifle, so the US Special Operations Command (SOCOM) put its eye on the M4 as a possible universal weapon for all Special Operations community. For this purpose M4 was latter modified with the M16A3-style flat-top receiver with integral Picatinny-type accessory rail instead of the M16A2/M4-type integral carrying handle. The other change in the M4A1, when compared to M4, is that its trigger unit is modified to fire full-auto instead of the three shots bursts. Specially for the SOCOM M4A1s US Naval Surface Warfare Center developed a SOPMOD M4 kit, that consisted of the M4A1 carbine equipped with Rail Interface System (RIS) instead of the standard handguards. The kit also includes a variety of the add-on goodies, such as various sights (ACOG 4X telescopic, ACOG Reflex red-dot, detachable back-up open sights), laser pointers (visible and infra-red), detachable sound suppressor (silencer), modified M203 40mm grenade launcher (with shortened barrel and improved sights). The kit also included a detachable front grip and tactical light.
From the first sight, the M4A1 SOPMOD is an ideal Special Operations weapon - handy, flexible, with good firepower. But the latest experience in the Afghanistan showed that the M4 has some flaws. First of all, the shorter barrel commands the lower bullet velocities, and this significantly decreased the effective range of the 5.56mm bullet. Second, the M4 barrel and the forend rapidly overheats. Third, the shortened barrel resulted in the shortened gas system, which works under greater pressures, than in M16A2 rifle. This increases the rate of fire and produces more stress on the moving parts, decreasing the reliability. While adequate as a Personal Defense Weapon for the non-infantry troops (vehicle crews, clerks, staff officers etc), M4A1 is, by some accounts, less than ideal for the Special Operations troops, at least in its present state. The idea of the complete re-arming of the US Army with the M4 as a money-saving measure, also is somewhat dubious.
Manufacturers - ICS, TM, CA, G&G etc etc
Model - Classic Army M15A4 Carbine AKA M4A1 Carbine
Specifications - Weight -2.737 kg
Barrel Length - 363mm
Barrel Caliber - 6.08mm
Pellet Capacity - 300
Pellet - 6mm
Initial Pellet Speed - 85-95 m/s
Battery Type - Mini or V Shapped
Accessories needed to run - Small or V shapped Battery, 8.4V or 9.6 Recommended.
Cost and place of purchase - $355 Dollars with 350 MAH Charger, Small 8.4 V Battery, 5000's bb's and CA M15A4 Carbine rifle.
Intro/First Impressions(of box etc) - WOAH! Huge box...bigest box I've ever seen in my life...very very long. When I opened the box the package was beautiful. Very impressive looking box. So anyways enough with staing at the box I thought, let's open her up.
Looks and feel(Of gun + Cosmetics) - Wow, good weight, this gun wasn't to heavy or to light, it felt perfect. It had such a nice feel to it when I picked it up. The first thing I did was pull the T-charging handle back and let it slide back into place, doing this right will give you a great, realistic sound. I've pulled it back as hard as I can and it's nice and secure, although I don't recomend it. The gun has the engravings of the real gun(M4A1 Carbine) on it, with all the Armalite trademarks intact. My serial number is, 055076. I had heard a few bad things about the M15A4's hop up chamber before the 17000's and I proceded to open the dustcover hiding it. I was pleased to find a yellow hop up set which is the new set I belive. The old one didn't stay in place(so I heard) but the yellow ones stay in place perfectly. The mag catch and other good cosmetic items were good, I had my father tighten all the screws on the gun just to be sure though. The Barrel was nice as well, and I felt no barrel wobble as well. I adjusted the sights with the tools provided and also proceded to take off the carrying handle. It was pretty cool, you just unscrew the two knobs and it comes right off. Even without the rail the gun was a beauty! Thanks to the rail system you can attach any sorts of attachments here. The only problem I say with this gun is the rear stock, it's hard to mount a good sling since it doesn't have the sling attachments, just a place for the sling to go through rather than the new stock coming out with the new TM M4A1. Other than that, I'd give it's looks a 10/10.
Metal Parts - Everything is metal except for the Front grip, and the rear stock.
Features - Saftey, Metal everything, High-cap magazine, it's beauty :P
Magazine - I loaded the 300 round highcap and stuck it in the mag well, it was a little loose but stayed in there secure, I'm getting 2 G&P midcaps soon so I'll let you know how thoese work later, other than that I found no problems with the magazine. It hasn't jamed yet and looks good being all metal. When you hit the mag release it comes out smoothley without ripping off any paint. The magazine provided is light gray.
Firing, rate of fire - I picked up the charger, and battery I got and then plugged them in to charge the gun. hotspotairsoft had only provided me with an 8.6 V battery so I was a bit worried it would have a bad ROF. I went to arnies airsoft to grab the download for battery charging time and then waited the long 100 minutes for my battery to be fully charged. After the horrific wait I proceeded to remove the plastic(but great feeling) handgaurd, which seperates into two pices. The ring that holds it is very sturdy, not at all like other's I've felt, such as the TM M733 Commando. I plugged the battery in and then put the handguard back on and prceeded outside with my fully loaded High-cap mag provided by Classic Army. With the 8.6 V battery there is no barrel wobble, or rattling inside the handguard. It feels really nice and adds the perfect weight to it, I was very impressed. Once outside I fired off a few semi rounds and found it as impressive as any gun, but when I switched it into full auto...I was AMAZED. Even on a 8.6V this gun screams! I held down the trigger and I couldn't even tell the bb's apart. I have white bbs and it looked like just a straight line of bb's. I was amazed by this, I'm almost afraid of what could happen using a 9.6V battery XO. I decided to do the "can test" to test the FPS, which I can set let the BB in one way and out the other from the sides so I can safley say it's at least 320.
Accuracy(AKA Hop Up) - With no hop up the bbs roll down like any normal AEG's. Meanwhile I adjusted the hop up, and it came out much better, at first they went to high so I slowley turned the wheel back until it was perfectly flying straight. I use a tree for accuracy practice and in semi 9-10 of the bb's hit it, the occasional 1 bb goes off course. In Full auto 7-10 hit the tree, a few went to far off. Nontheless they all hit well, just if you have a very small target it'll be a lot tougher. If this was in CQB they'd be screwed
Any Upgrades you have installed - None currently, comes pre-upgraded.
Conclusion - This gun is amazing, I would recommend it to everyone, as long as I don't mess with this one too much I'll be good, even my father(Who I have tighten all my screws as I don't break anything because I can be obsessive compulsive and break it) said it felt like the real deal. My father, scoring the highest rank for marksmanship in Basic Tranning, felt the gun was very very, authentic. Overall, get this, it is awesome, and will last you a good long time.
Looks - 10/10 - Some might not like the looks of the M4 but if you do this one takes the cake.
Firing - 10/10 - Awesome shooting
Build Quality - 10/10 - Solid as a friken rock!
Update - 1/7/06
I have taken everything in the M15A4 apart except for the Gearbox, soon I might need to but not right now. The gun is still in awesome condition but I've noticed the hop up doesn't seem to make to much of a difference until it's one or two rolls away from Full hop up and then it fires up, but it's hard to find a good normal adjustment now. The hop up might need some lubing or something from me taking it apart but I'm not sure and not willing to take the gun back apart. Other than that it's still amazing.
9/10 for Update
Taking this puppy apart!
First thing to remember when taking this gun apart is to raise the charging handle or you will break the spring, I already did it once and while a spring is easy enough to get it's better to just push the charging handle up a little bit when taking it apart and this will solve the whole problem. Other than that just follow the manual and you'll be able to take her apart no problem.------------------------------ 
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hitchhiker
Registered: May 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 139
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Review Date: 9/8/06
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: Not Indicated
| Rating: 10
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Solid, powerful, light and looks so very tight.
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Accuracy after use and iron sights.
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You feel like a badass... no that’s wrong... you are a badass when you hold this gun. It can't be helped. Try and try as you might to feel pale and insignificant while wielding it you cannot and never will. The guy who shot you five times will be sitting there in awe of your personage and begging forgiveness for his sins. You are the Pope sitting in his pope-mobile in total isolation from the masses of cheering worshipers that want simply to get one step closer to your divine person. Spit on them. Spit on them and know they can never get close enough… until they buy one.
…anyway, good gun.
Problems? Well there are always problems aren’t there? You will forgive them. You will forgive them or it may get angry, and if it gets angry it will turn on you and run off with Samuel L. Jackson. It will leave you a shattered and broken soul with the rest of your collection providing you with false comfort and failing to fill the vast dark void it ripped open with its passing. Understand that you are nothing without this gun, that you merely channel a power unknown and unknowable and…. Ok seriously it needs a 6.04 barrel and new hop-up bucking. …FORGIVE!
Was it too epic? Don’t be scared. It really is a good solid close to medium range weapon, easy to point with excellent power and durability out of the box. The barrel and hop-up upgrades are typical of any Classic Army weapon since they come with a 6.08mm inner barrel (same as Tokyo Marui) and kinda cruddy hop-up bucking which after some hours of play starts giving inconsistent hop. I use an 8.4v 1100mah mini but a 1400mah mini is recommended for a nice crisp shot.
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morugatu
Registered: February 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 371
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Review Date: 5/11/06
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: £280.00
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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Same materials as real steel, decent range, Decent RPM, good Accuracy for an AEG
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Cons:
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Scratches easily, aluminum alloy, light adjustments to hop up, a few magazine brands do not fit
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The search begins:
I currently owned a SRC M16A3 with the WORST barrel wobble in the world, the bbs wouldn't even feed unless it was tightened. I then was invited to a game on veteran's day (11th of November). I needed a new gun, so for my birthday I got a CA M15 from airsplat for 280 dollars.
Opening:
Hmmm, not as shinny as I would have expected. I picked it up and wow! It's pretty light! I couldn't figure out why it was so light. I guess it must have some lighter metal, but my grandpa said it was the same as a real gun would use. The box said it had fiberglass handgaurd and stock which is correct. They are very nice quality.
Up close and personal:
The metal was cool to the touch, but must be hardier to the temp, because it was warmer than the railing of the stairs I had just come down. The Metal is very nicely painted with some smooth armalite trademarks covering the reciever and only a small classic army trade mark on the right side. The dust cover is magnetized to the metal plate behind the hop up which I find very useful as there are no small parts you have to worry about. The hop up is a yellow version and since airsplat usually carries older models, I am assuming the old style is no longer in the market. Hop up adjustment is easy unless you just cut your finger nails like I did. The charging handle and forward assist both are functional but only for show.
Specs:
The gun is a flat top reciever with a rail to attach scopes onto if the standard sight is removed. I prefer the red dot sight due to increased area of vision, so I promptly removed the old sight and stuck a red dot on. The Stock is a five position stock and is slight loose if there is no pressure on the back, while it's in your shoulder though, it is fairly stiff. The really big down side is the gun really can't fit anything over 1200mAh unless it is a special type of battery. This really sucked because the only battery that would fit was my brother's UTG Mp5 battery. The magazine holds 450 rounds and is grayish which I sort of like, but it clashes horriblely with the reciever, so I only use my SRC Magazines (I haven't put a bb in the CA magazine).
(Starting left to right; SRC, G&P, CA)
Firing:
Wow! It is a lot quieter than my SRC or my DPMS AEG, but it still is louder than some others I have witnessed. I felt like I was shooting a UTG Mp5, but the bbs were definitely harder to see. Semi automatic was great, put out of the 200 rounds I shot on semi, I experience a slight lock on the trigger, put I merely pulled it again and it fired normally, strange. Fully automatic, one quick trigger pull yields a three round burst and with a skilled shooter, you can achieve semi auto fire by tapping it lightly.
Accuracy:
I turned on my red dot and with no hop up, the bbs were doing an arch at 60ft. very consistently, but not online with my red dot. I then tuned up the hop up about half way and now the bbs were hitting the targets right under my red dot, so I only had to slightly aim above the target. I hit every time I aimed the red dot at a target at 60ft, some were at 50 ft. I used an old swing-set for my target and was able to his the poles, swings (I was facing it to the side, so the swing's side was toward me), slide, a tikki torch my mom had nearby, and a small toy truck wagon at 60ft. (the tikki torch was 40ft and the swing was 50ft). On fully automatic, the groupings widen so that out of a three round burst on average one would make it's mark and the other few would swing within centimeters of it. I would like to add this was done on zero windage, no adjustment of the red dot, and with .25 gram bbs (some off brand ones from jungle toy).
Accessories:
This being an M4A1 replica, the posibilities are limited only by space on your gun. I personally am going to purchase a reflex sight for show, a vertical foregrip (grenade launcher grenades are too expensive for me), and perhaps some flip up sights incase something goes wrong. I would LIKE to have a grenade launcher ACOG X4 scope, crane stock, and ACOG reflex sight, but that's a little too pricey for me to consider.
(People have trouble with magazines for mis-aligning them, make sure the tip is facing the top of the gun for smooth mag changes)
Upgrades:
V-DAY EDIT: Installed silent piston head, aluminum/telfon piston, brass cylinder head, and m120 spring. I'm having feeding issues and will reinstall stock cylinder head. I'll take pictures of internals this time too. Also, my piston had nearly NO wear after around 10,000+ rounds through it on stock parts.
Feb. 17: Sorry, didn't have any batteries for camera, maybe next time. I did find out what the problems were and it turns out the systema silent piston head has sucky compression so I replaced the o-ring with the CA one, realized I had installed the air nozzle was installed wrong and after cleaning the cylinder, my RoF has actually gone UP although battery consumption has gone up too. I might need a second battery. Today we have a game so I'll update how that went.
So, if you get a CA, DEFINITELY invest in simply upgrading to a new piston head, aluminum w/teflon piston, metal cylinder head, and M120 spring. If anythink wears out, it will be the piston not the gears (which are steel). (unless you get something like titanium)
(Hard to see pic showing I I own the yellow hop up version)
Side Note: If possible get an M15 with 7mm bushings, they are more effective and the version with 7mm costs the same as the 6mm, it just depends on what the store has in stock.
(CA M15A4 Carbine with Red dot, DPMS M16A1 sling, magazines, and Y&P M9 NBB)
Overall:
I am expecting great things from this and would reccomend it to anyone looking for a good indestructable airsoft gun. I am very pleased by it for the 280 dollars I spent and am hoping this review helped you. I will edit if anything else comes up. My e-mail is rane_of_fire@hotmail.com if you have any questions.
NOTE FOR FUTURE/CURRENT REVIEWERS: I gave an 8/10 as I am extremely satisfied, but understand there are somethings that can be improved upon (hop up, different metals, magazine, etc.). Please think before rating your replica a 10/10 as it may cause someone to become very upset and waste a lot of their hard-earned money.
EDIT: Combat Trials
Today (11th november) team I just joined had a game. Everyone was slighty taken aback by how well my gun performed. It had the range of just about everyone's guns and mine was STOCK. The accuracy was still just crazy good with my red dot. Anyway, we played only three games I kind of make bad decisions, so I really only played one game. First game, we started off at one side of a desert wash with the other team in a rock bunker a ways down. One team went down the middle and I went with the main assault team. First contact was after we got out of the wash and we saw a guy hit the dirt. After some accurate fire from one of my comrades he was walking out. The third guy with us ran with his G36C up field and nailed another man before walking out himself. Then, the man I was following ran a little bit in front of me and while going around a bush got wasted by another CA M15 I think (might have been a G&G). I then went around the bush ever so slowly and he didn't know there were two of us, so I flanked his ass letting lose a full auto burst from 80ft with all 5-8 bbs hitting home. Then, moving up I spotted the guy's girlfriend and unloaded with full auto on her. Two kills, game over for our team. Victory. However, the next two games were extremely intense and the opposing forces won both times, mainly because our men were too spread out and not enough cover. This gun proved itself to me to be well worth the money I spent. I think all it needs is a M120 and M203 (I decided to only get an M203 instead of other accessories after seeing a teammates up close).
Jan. 2007 update: Wow, I love this replica! It certainly has me still amazed at it's performence. The only complaint I have now is the hop up adjustment wheel seems to have less resistance than it started out with, but I'm sure it's just broken in now.
He are some more pics of my CA M15A4 Carbine with some accessories on it.
My M15 with my brother's M15 (brand new) and a jumble of other things I threw in to make the pic look better.
My M15 with a 40mm red dot scope, Handguard rails, UTG forward ergnomic RIS foregrip, SOCOM bipod, a simple sling I took off a DPMS M16A1, my M8A1 Bayonet (it's real), and a G&P M16 Mid Capacity Magazine that misfeeds more than any other magazine I own has done COMBINED. My brother and I have an eight pack of MAG M16 Mid Caps coming, so stand by for that review.
Close-up.
Shooter's point of view.
Shooter's point of view with some lighting.
And for all you out there that don't want an M15A4 Carbine simply for battery capacity, check out my Intellect 9.6v 2000mAh battery that is also fully compatible with AUGs.
I decided to neglect an M203 Launcher and M120 spring and help get my brother his own M15A4 Carbine because I love it so much! Besides, I don't have the money for an entire RIS system and an M4 mounted version takes away my ability to utilize a foregrip. The M120 Spring is just pointless and I would be better off with a tightbore and better hop up, but a new hop up won't give me godly results for my money and tightbores clog fast here in the dusty Arizona desert. I might replace the hop up if my current unit begins to fail me which I fear may happen within this year. Stay tuned for an update in the next month or two as I compare my brother's and my own M15's performence.
P.S. Off topic, but my brother's UTG Mp5 broke in December which would mean his Mp5 lasted almost EXACTLY a year. Consider ECHO 1/JG G36c/Mp5s if you're on a budget.
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