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Having tired of the ye olde rifle grip that annoyed me to hell on my M14 (that and carrying 9 magazines for it was a pain) I decided to go back to a weapon that uses M16 magazines and has a pistol grip.
With the Scar being the new M4 I thought that I would give it a whirl. After spying it on Action Hobbys for a modest £155 which included a silencer, a QD vertical foregrip (which really isn't that QD!) and two rail covers (one of which has a recess for a torch/laser pressure pad).
A week later the gun arrives safe and sound wrapped in some immense blue bubble wrap. The bubble wrap didn't last long and presented before me was a plain brown box... exciting but the pretty art work isn't exactly going to do wonders when it ends up in the recycling box anyway, makes it easier actually as the collection guys won't think you're a terrorist.
Opening the box you're presented with the Scar neatly layed out in its polystyrene bed, picking the gun up the first impression was it instantly weighed more than I thought, it's still light but it was just more than I expected The gun felt solid however the stock was wobbling like crazy! I instantly saw however that there was a hex screw lose near the stock. Once that was tightened the wobbliness had gone.
The rail covers were not to my taste so they've been thrown to one side and the QD grip is... hmmm. There is some roughness on it but that wasn't my main concern. I got the grip onto the bottom rail fine, when it came to taking it off the damned thing would not move! The buttons that you push down to release it's grip on the rail are horrible. They are very painful to the old digits when pressed down so if you have another vertical grip you would prefer stick that on. The grip also has a removable slot so that you can add a torch/laser pad into it. The bottom unscrews so that it can hold extra batteries also.
The paint on the gun is finished neatly with the trademarks looking good. The charging handle can be swapped from side to side and the plastic looks to be of a good quality.
The stock is fairly solid and does have a little play but no more than a normal M4 stock. Folding the stock instantly stops you from using the right hand side fire selector and almost the trigger itself! The magazine release is also blocked. Essentially folding the stock stops you from using the gun comfortably so it is not advised.
The cheek rest pops open to reveal the battery compartment. Now I think I wouldn't be the only one in saying that the compartment is TINY! a 1500maH 8.4v battery slides in fine with enough room to extend and retract the stock but forget putting anything else in there.
The silencer simply screws onto the aggressive looking flash hider and provides a small noise reduction (more on the noise in a sec) It's nicely finished and looks great on the Scar.
Now, dry firing the gun on a fully charged Component Shop 8.4v 1500maH battery you're greeted with SCREECH POP!!!! Yep, the gun sounds like it majorly needs a reshim. The trigger response is quite quick and will no doubt be quicker after a quick reshim and regrease.
I can see why they supply this gun with a silencer, it is LOUD! the muzzle report is insane! Not one for stealthy peeps who like to remain hidden, this thing will annouce your presence to people on the other side of the game zone let alone 30 meters away from you.
Opening the hop cover I noticed something disturbing... grease... lots of grease. We know the Chinese have a fixation with coating their components with more lube than a porn star uses in several years and this can be a problem because too much grease will effect performance. Not only that but it's damned messy aswell when it comes to general maintenance.
Anyways as a summary for my initial experiences I would say this thing easily feels worth the money. The gun is solid as a rock, comes with a host of extras others don't and the finish looks good. It needs tweaking a bit by the sounds of things but until I have a play I can't be certain.
Overall - 7/10... for now.
So with a fully charged battery I wander outside to my garden, load up the supplied 300 round hi cap and take aim at my target about 45 meters away. The initial shot was insane, it was moving so quickly it was hard to track! Easily shooting in the 400 fps range, so first thing I knew I needed to do was change the spring. So I try to set the hop, at full there was no effect what so ever. Rather than waste the other 150 bb's left in the mag I decided to leave it at that and get to work.
Breaking down the Scar isn't a complicated process, 2 screws on the back and one on the top rail hold the stock in place, remove these and the stock comes off (be careful with the battery wires though!) and then you can pop the front body pin and the lower receiver will slide off. This gives you access to the hop unit which is a metal affair which was also covered in grease. That would explain the lack of hop! Anyways, the gearbox removal from the lower receiver is complicated and even needs it's own page in the manual! It involves removing the two pins in the lower receiver and then the pistol grip by taking the base plate off, removing the motor and undoing the screws in the bottom. Now this is where things get interesting. You need to pry the side of the receiver to the side and move the left side fire selector clockwise past full auto and leave it pointing at 6 o'clock. Then flip it over, set the fire selector on the right side to auto and pry the receiver up again whilst pushing the gearbox out. Difficult but gets easier with practice.
With the gearbox out you'll notice the two gears that fit in with the fire selector, much different to a normal V2 gearbox selector mechanism. Once the box was open I was overwhelmed by grease. It took a good half hour to scrub it out in the basin and get everything looking shiny and new again. Interesting things to note are the chromed polished cylinder, sector gear chip and brass (what look like 7mm) bushings. Overall the insides, apart from being caked in a small lake of grease, look to be good enough to take a beating.
After replacing the spring, regreasing and reshimming the box it now looks to be runnning about 360 fps, perfect. Now came what I dreaded after reading about Dboys Scars, getting the gearbox back into the lower receiver. Basically it's a reversal of the disassembly process and it's a giant pain in the butt to get it right. After doing this you must put the body pins back in now otherwise they won't fit in and the fire selector will not work properly. Then put everything else back together and it was good to go. Initially the gearbox was screechy and didn't sound healthy, after use and a reshim it died down to normal sounds.
Now whilst I was here I looked at the hop as well. After clearing the gunk from it I could see that the hop bucking wasn't pressing on the rubber. I ditched the normal bucking for biro to no avail. So I decided to cut out another piece of biro and then cut it in half and place it before the normal bucking. This gave it the extra push it needed to push down on the rubber.
The barrel took about 6 cleanings to get it looking good so now that the internals had been overhauled it was time for another test. I loaded up the battery and magazine, took aim and was greeted by a much quieter shot than when it was running 400+ fps plus the fact it now actually had some range. The stock barrel isn't amazing but it gets the job done. I think that the hop rubber and bucking are also playing a part in the accuracy but it's more than acceptable and I'm just picky.
The 1200maH battery that comes with the gun is actually very good! It performs equally as well as the 1500maH ones I bought from component shop. With the internals sorted I was now even happier with my purchase.
With an internal make over this is now so worth the purchase!
Overall: The gun has it's downfalls in the sense that some screws seem to want to round off too easily, the gearbox and barrel need a thorough degreasing and makeover to make it acceptable to use and the gearbox needs a bit of bedding in before it sounds normal. However the externals cannot be faulted, the internal components are nicely done albeit drowned in grease and it's a very good looking finish on the top receiver.
If you've got the gearbox skills or a mate with gearbox skills take the plunge and go for it. If you're not capable of doing the overhaul yourself, have a think about it and see if you want a Scar that badly!
Overall: 8/10
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