help needed with my VSR10

[chownsy]

i have just had my vsr upgraded witha kings arms gas cylinder, TM tightbore and New chamber unit, i wondered if there is anyway of installing a heater unit under the cylinder so i can use this baby in the winter, i know on green gas this baby is over forum limits but on r134a it runs legal fps. please advise me if there is a way and what temperature the gas works best at and lets me get the most shots from 1 recharge of gas

many thanks in advance

Richard

[greg]

i have just had my vsr upgraded witha kings arms gas cylinder, TM tightbore and New chamber unit, i wondered if there is anyway of installing a heater unit under the cylinder so i can use this baby in the winter, i know on green gas this baby is over forum limits but on r134a it runs legal fps. please advise me if there is a way and what temperature the gas works best at and lets me get the most shots from 1 recharge of gas

many thanks in advance

Richard

 

Oh dear.

 

Errrrrrrr, there are many problems I can see; over heating is one, you would really need to keep the temperature regulated with a thermostat or something.

 

On the less technical side, how about one of those 'T-bag' type hand warmer. I think they hold a similar temp for about 4 or 5 hours, I guess you could mount it in the general vicinity of the cylinder, but not direct on it!

 

Actually, on second thoughts, I wouldn't recommend the heating of a gas cylinder, for obvious reasons!!

 

Dude, go back to the spring!

 

 

Greg.

[Trasher]

i have just had my vsr upgraded witha kings arms gas cylinder,

It was more like a downgrade... Gas cylinder and new chamber for a VSR?

 

[chownsy]

It was more like a downgrade... Gas cylinder and new chamber for a VSR?

 

but spring was going to cost 200 for a cylinder, i now got a decent hop unit and tightbore, the gas works well but in winter looses it fast.

i just want a good bolt action sniper, im using my g36c-sniper which i broke lol.

 

[broken gun]

the king arms cylinder cylinder is known as being incredably inconsistent. i would definitly change to spring. the king arms cylinder is about 120 so not too much more for a good quality spring. you can get a PDI cylinder set for 100 GBP.

[chownsy]

the king arms cylinder cylinder is known as being incredably inconsistent. i would definitly change to spring. the king arms cylinder is about 120 so not too much more for a good quality spring. you can get a PDI cylinder set for 100 GBP.

 

the cylinder is 50 and i already got it, cost me 100 for the full upgrade from my local shop

i cant afford any more now, im just wanting to get this sorted thats all i can afford now.

[pedrosalas7]

we'll the only way to get sniper grade consistency out of that cilinder and specially in winter is going to be via external air source like CO2 or HPA, something like what Maverick uses in his sun project m40

[chownsy]

we'll the only way to get sniper grade consistency out of that cilinder and specially in winter is going to be via external air source like CO2 or HPA, something like what Maverick uses in his sun project m40

 

will this work well in summer months?

 

[pedrosalas7]

it'll work very well in summer, I'm planing on moving to CO2 as soon as i can for my tanaka. Let me explain how they work, you have the air tank(be it CO2 or HPA) they hook up to a regulator that regulates the presure it releases, then the regulator hooks via a hose to the cilinder and it uses the gas reservoir in the cilinder as an expansion chamber so the gas turns from liquid into gas here(in the case of CO2) and not in the nozzle, thus creating a very consistent output.

 

that's the basic idea of how it works, it may vary depending on the sistem but that's basicaly it.

 

 

 

[chownsy]

it'll work very well in summer, I'm planing on moving to CO2 as soon as i can for my tanaka. Let me explain how they work, you have the air tank(be it CO2 or HPA) they hook up to a regulator that regulates the presure it releases, then the regulator hooks via a hose to the cilinder and it uses the gas reservoir in the cilinder as an expansion chamber so the gas turns from liquid into gas here(in the case of CO2) and not in the nozzle, thus creating a very consistent output.

 

that's the basic idea of how it works, it may vary depending on the sistem but that's basicaly it.

 

ok how does it connect to the cylinder because the filling point is convered when it cocked,

how much does a CO2 rig cost?

cheers

Richard

[pedrosalas7]

a good CO2 rig will cost about 100$

[chownsy]

a good CO2 rig will cost about 100$

 

any chance, not nessaseily u, but any one , can you look for a good CO2 rig to connect ot a vsr cylinder.

would it be able to regulat the fps of the rifle also?

[pedrosalas7]

i'll post links later tonight of what i'm going to buy. you can also contact maverick. you'll be able to fully regulate de fps

[chownsy]

i'll post links later tonight of what i'm going to buy. you can also contact maverick. you'll be able to fully regulate de fps

 

thanks ill have a look when u post the links

who is maverick?

cheers

 

[Senor Bear]

A forum member

[pedrosalas7]

here are a couple of pics of the gas setup maverick uses: http://maveric.geezas.com/gallery/v/Maveri...CN6049.JPG.html

http://maveric.geezas.com/gallery/v/Maveri...CN6047.JPG.html

 

these are the parts he used to build it:

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...1206e2f30a82c1a (this is the tubing used)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...44a31e45d15724b (the regulator)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...products_id=114 (a valve to conect the regulator with the tank adapter)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...products_id=223 (tank adapter)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...eb12e8f411724ac (this is an adapter used to run the sistem on 12gr CO2 disposable tanks instead of paintball tanks)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...919e6612797cd17 (this is the fitting that you'll have to attach to the gas cilinder, you'll have to drill a hole in it and tap the hole for the threads)

 

[chownsy]

here are a couple of pics of the gas setup maverick uses: http://maveric.geezas.com/gallery/v/Maveri...CN6049.JPG.html

http://maveric.geezas.com/gallery/v/Maveri...CN6047.JPG.html

 

these are the parts he used to build it:

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...1206e2f30a82c1a (this is the tubing used)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...44a31e45d15724b (the regulator)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...products_id=114 (a valve to conect the regulator with the tank adapter)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...products_id=223 (tank adapter)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...eb12e8f411724ac (this is an adapter used to run the sistem on 12gr CO2 disposable tanks instead of paintball tanks)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.p...919e6612797cd17 (this is the fitting that you'll have to attach to the gas cilinder, you'll have to drill a hole in it and tap the hole for the threads)

 

so basically the gas cylinder has to have another hole drilled into it for the adapter for the CO2 rig

cheers for all the links

 

EDIT: has anyone got a link to mavericks profile

many thanks again

[The Chef]

you remove the fill valve and tap it out to accept the hose.

 

if you look through this forum, you'll find a thread called 'HPA/CO2 How To'

 

I've listed what I have done to my VSR gas cylinder in there.

[chownsy]

you remove the fill valve and tap it out to accept the hose.

 

if you look through this forum, you'll find a thread called 'HPA/CO2 How To'

 

I've listed what I have done to my VSR gas cylinder in there.

 

the only thing is when u close the bolt the fill valve is covered up

[The Chef]

yup....

 

I just milled out a tiny section of the reciever. took about 5 mins and doesnt look out of place. I can still swap the cylinder out for the spring one. Although I did machine a new trigger stop so the gas cylinder is compatible with my zero trigger.

 

mounted the CO2 rig on a scope tri-rail.

[chownsy]

yup....

 

I just milled out a tiny section of the reciever. took about 5 mins and doesnt look out of place. I can still swap the cylinder out for the spring one. Although I did machine a new trigger stop so the gas cylinder is compatible with my zero trigger.

 

mounted the CO2 rig on a scope tri-rail.

 

does that post u posted include all the fitting instructions?

does it work well in winter

wat fps range can u go from to?

how many shots u get from one 12g cartridge

[tmks88]

does that post u posted include all the fitting instructions?

does it work well in winter

wat fps range can u go from to?

how many shots u get from one 12g cartridge

 

i can get about 120 shots from one 12g cartridge, more gas for the bullet = more power

 

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=115045

 

i made that thread because i wasnt satisfied with my m700 on green gas, now im really happy with it on CO2

on green it was hard to hit on 30m because it was so inconsistant and the hop was too heavy or too low so i shot over the enemy or in front of his feet, on CO2 i can shoot up to 110-120m on a day with no wind (thats quite hard to hit at that distance, but still possible, i would like to try 0.87g and try the accuracy with those at long ranges)

[chownsy]

i can get about 120 shots from one 12g cartridge, more gas for the bullet = more power

 

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=115045

 

i made that thread because i wasnt satisfied with my m700 on green gas, now im really happy with it on CO2

on green it was hard to hit on 30m because it was so inconsistant and the hop was too heavy or too low so i shot over the enemy or in front of his feet, on CO2 i can shoot up to 110-120m on a day with no wind (thats quite hard to hit at that distance, but still possible, i would like to try 0.87g and try the accuracy with those at long ranges)

 

cheers

im going to try set it so it fits in the stock and the capsule fits in the bottom for easy changing.

does it work well in winter

can u regulate the pressure to 328, 360 and 500fps easily

[pedrosalas7]

yeah you can, it's just a knob you turn, although it'll take a chrono to see the fps you're getting every time you adjust the regulator

[tmks88]

cheers

im going to try set it so it fits in the stock and the capsule fits in the bottom for easy changing.

does it work well in winter

can u regulate the pressure to 328, 360 and 500fps easily

 

i have a bit different thing, a KSC CO2 booster (search for co2 booster in www.begadi.com) im always on full power so i dont know about regulating much because i dont have chrono....it worked in -6C, it hasnt been colder than that this year